OK,

I have some questions, and thanks Tasha for the link to the forum discussing the book.

When Harry has a trace still on before his birthday, why can't they detect that he is at the Burrow? Is there some sort of something else there? If so, then why couldn't the team of aurors and helpers put this same cloak over Harry's house in Little Whinging, then do spells from there?

Also... I don't think the little girl was being raped at all. It just says the boys wanted to make her do the magic again, then they got rough with her. It doesn't say they raped her, or even implied it. I never would have thought that from reading it. Although, I don't know what J.K. ROwling intended, rape seems a bit extreme.

And how come there is no real closure with some things like Professor Umbridge or the dragon that flies off from the Bank. Luna seems to fade into oblivion again too.

Also, when did the ministry put the trace on Voldemort's name? Harry was spewing it quite a bit in the early part of the book.

I'm sure I will have more q's...

"Harry Potter- Book 7- Without the Spoilers!!"

lol I just clicked on this thread and thought it actually meant there were no spoilers. For stupid people like me though, perhaps you can change the title to "Harry Potter- Book 7- Without the Spoiler TAGS" ? I finished the book already, so that's not a worry. Just thought this should be mentioned.

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Done it! :) Now don't we love msn and other IM's? lol.

Enjoy your crazy Harry Potter obsessions..

they cant detect that he is at the burrow because no one was using magic around him and he himself wasnt using magic

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Changed the thread title again so there should be no confusion. :)

Given the content of this thread, I reckon this thread is gonna remain unmoderated for at least the next couple of days. lol

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i stand by the rape bit.

they don't just attack her . .

its implied that it's much worse than that.

They are doing magic around him... When Madam Delacour shows up it even says she knew lots of household spells and cleaned the oven up really well.

And Hermione says that she has been doing lots of tricky spells and charms to prepare for their trip.

Now that I think about it, in one of the earlier books Harry used "lumos" to light his wand to read his books at night at his aunt and uncle's house. Why didn't the trace detect that?

because your not supposed too think too much about it. . .

I think any book/series will be subject to continuity errors if examined closely enough. It's true of all pieces of writing. They're also open to many different interpretations by many different people. Such is the joy of literature. This thread is turning into quite the lit crit thread.. with.. 'I think this because....' etc.. I think it's great. I haven't read the book myself yet, but I'm enjoying reading what you guys write.

You haven't read it yet?
STAY OUT OF THE THREAD!!

Someone's gonna give the ending away in a minute Buffs, just for you!

xD

i know the page numbers are a bit wrong, but the rest is fine and you asked for it. .

(incase your wondering who judith priest is. . .i got this from another forum!).

^Holy fontsize batman! Had to go back and forth to read the whole thing!

I have a question about the book though. Why did Harry say the Elder Wand chose Malfoy as his master originally?

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Dumbledore intended the Elder Wand's master to be Snape, but since Snape didn't exactly overpower Dumbledore because Dumbledore had asked Snape to kill him, when Draco disarmed Dumbledore, Draco became the master of the Elder Wand. Draco was the only one who had actually overpowered Dumbledore.

Plus, I don't believe that the book was implying that Ariana got raped. It just says that the Muggle boys got angry when she couldn't duplicate the trick they had seen before.

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Ah thank you for the explanation! And I agree on the Ariana thing. Don't think J.K. Rowling implied that Ariana was raped at all, seeing as all Rowling wrote was that "they (muggle boys) got a bit carried away."

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Finished! Finished! Like, just now!

Oh that was good. I KNEW Snape was good, I knew it! I thought he would be in love with Lily too, but I thought he might have made an Unbreakable Vow with Dumbldore or something and that's why Dumbledore still trusted him.

I don't think the boys raped Ariana either, from what I understood they were pre-teens anyhow.

I cried when Dobby and Hedwig died, how sad am I?

Oh, and was there anyone who didn't think Harry was another Horcrux? I actually thought Nagini wouldn't be one.

There were some things I remember reading that Rowling had said which didn't seem to come up in the book. One was about a character suddenly being able to do magic late in life. I thought it might refer to Filch, but nothing seemed to materialise. Edited out, perhaps?

Oh, I cried when Percy came back too.

I think the things about the cats was that all three of them weren't really cats, but rather creatures that were mentioned in 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' the name of which escapes me. I remember Sirius saying that Crookshanks was the most intelligent of his kind he had ever met... meaning those creatures. Again, it wasn't really explained in the book. I think a lot got cut out.

EDIT: Oh, I found the name of them, Kneazles.

EDIT 2: OK one more edit and then I really have to do some work.

I just read 2 theories about who can do magic later in life. One said it was Dudley Dursley, and the magic referred to was Dumbledore's favorite - love.
The other said that it was Merope, from book 6, Voldemort's mother. Apparently JK said that before book 6 was published? Not sure, but some people think it's her.

EDIT 3: Someone else post and then I can stop editing!

I also just read another theory that it was Ted Tonks - but I think he was muggle-born rather than just a muggle.

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I heard that the person who was supposed to show magic later in life just got cut out.

And Ted Tonks was a Muggleborn, it says so in Book 5.

I was really surprised at the accuracy of Mugglenet - the staff got together, wrote a book on things they thought would happen in Harry Potter 7, and their main theories were this: Harry is a horcrux, Harry will live, Snape is good. They got three out of three, that's pretty impressive.

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what harry does next. . .

just finished the book... the last 300 pages stressed me out, made me laugh, and frustrated me.. and then i was just happy

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I'm reading it again... sigh!

again?!

i lent it to my brother, he's reading it now.. he kept yelling at me when i wanted to talk about what was happening

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AHAHAHA, YES! ROWLING GOES INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN EACH CHARACTER'S LIFE!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

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Wow, can't believe she gave more details! But I think some of them were kind of predictable (Harry and Ron, Luna, Hogwarts).

And I'd just like to say what was Rowling thinking when she gave those children said names? Albus Severus Potter?! Not to be unappreciative or anything (afterall, this was a great series) but she could of made the name a little less cheesy and make it sound better... those names don't string well in my opinion.

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so mcgonagal is the new headmaster? (or however her name is spelled i cant remember)

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Finished the book this morning. Didn't get it until late friday. Well worth the read.

My thoughts on the issues:

- I never doubted for a second that snape was good, it was evident he wanted to be in a room with harry's mom alone, with barry white playing in the background.

- Arianna is not raped. They just beat the crap out of her. They're talking about children beating up a girl, not teenagers or adults. But i guess that's up to the reader to interpret.

- The shrieking thing in king's cross is the piece of voldemort's soul that was in harry's body. Once harry is dead, his soul and the bit from voldemort's separate and are left in the same limbo. I remain doubtful as how to harry came back to life, if anybody would clear that up for me? I'll re-read it anyway.

- McGonnagal's not the headmaster? So who is? The interview says someone entirely new. I guess we'll never know.

- The running away hiding in the forest in the tent chapters bored me to no end.

- Since there's no more death eaters (?), what are Aurors good for now?
*Evil will eventually crop up again, dark magic is there for someone to find, use and obsess about.

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I think you answered your penultimate question in your last statement. The aurors are dark wizard catchers. The Death Eaters are not the only dark wizards.

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