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Old 07-03-2007, 05:49 AM
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Angry Lack of Admins?

Sorry Its been a while since ive posted....
I am soooo frustrated right now I could just run down the street naked, screaming and pulling my hair out....
I am tired of trying to RELAX with a game of iSk and have to put up with so many idiots that either dont read the rules or could give a rats azz about them. I get a few precious hours each week to play(US Eastern time between 11-2am, usually in uk rooms) and these fools just go on playing just how THEY want and with their terrible potty mouths, bigotry, writing letters and drawing porn every chance they get. Whats worse I cant ever seem to get any help anymore. No admins to be found. Then, I dont know if there is a certain number of times you can vote to skip/boot someone because it starts giving some friggin default message saying that I have voted/booted them too many times or whatever it actually says(whats with that?). I could spend an hour in a room trying to make the blokes understand that there are rules. I know im probably gonna hear "Why dont you just leave or change rooms?" which I also get from these immature people that thrive on making rule-abiding players' lives miserable. I SHOULDNT HAVE TO CHANGE ROOMS! NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO! These people NEED to play by the rules or receive consequences. When they do not, they feel they can do it even more and have free reign over everyone in the room calling people names and writing letters and generally causing GOOD PEOPLE to leave(this also includes abusing the skip/boot function). This really needs to stop. I have even had to sometimes shorten my playing time, because to me iSketch is a haven from the workday, but when I have to put up with this, it only serves to aggravate me further and I just have to log off and walk away. The general response I normally receive is "gee, its just a game". Well, heres my 2 cents worth on that... ALL games have rules. When you break the rules, it means you are cheating! Period. If you play a Playstation game/Xbox game or board game(like Pictionary), people arent going to want to play with you if you are constantly cheating. Also, if you change the parameters of any of the system games via a **CHEAT** code, its cheating. Thats why its called a CHEAT code, duh. Oh and by the way Im not sorry if I offend anyone because this is how I feel. Live with it, like I have to live with cheaters EVERY TIME I play iSketch. Im not trying to blame any admins either because I think they may have too much on their plate to deal with every single situation that arises but that may also mean that its time to hire some more? Yeah?
I would gladly be one myself but I dont think the time I have each week to dedicate to that would be sufficient for the role.(???) Anyone that knows me, knows that I am very helpful when it comes to noobs that are nice and need help. Furthermore, every admin that has ever come to my rescue knows that I DO NOT abuse the vote priveledge and that I thank them almost 99% of the time. Please, please, please(begging here) do something about this before my sanity is lost and the only choice I have left is not to play anymore. My love for iSk is slipping.
Is there anything I can do to help solve this problem?
Ive always thought snitches were the worst people but lately ive been seriously considering copying every violation to my clipboard and emailing to get something done since the vote priveledge no longer seems to work especially when im the only one voting. Sheesh!

Edit: Hey whats the big idea... Im not a junior member with only 1 post! I had at least 80 posts, not that its a whole lot, but still.... WOW! Looks like there been some big changes since ive been here last.
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Old 07-03-2007, 08:58 AM
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I'm so sorry you feel like this hon. Being in those situations is so frustrating. They're most of the reasons I don't play much anymore. Don't even get me started on people clicking done in the final round so a certain person can win the game either!! If there's something you need to report to feedback, don't hesitate either. You're not a snitch, you're helping the team to enforce the rules. Rules make the game fun, why can't people see that?!

I must say, I'm not a big boff on admins so I can't help with those frustrations but I know that we're not the only 2 to have these complaints either so you're not alone. I know that doesn't help with people disrespecting the game but we're all here for you to vent off if you need to xxxx

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Old 07-03-2007, 09:06 AM
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Been there done that! You're not alone Atreyu! Like Facey said...it is extremely frustrating when things like that happen. And when there isn't an Admin around to help......it makes it worse. But the only thing we can do is to just grit our teeth or move to another room.

I'm sure Admins have a hard time anyway and are very busy themselves so i know that they will help at any chance they can.
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But the only thing we can do is to just grit our teeth or move to another room.
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I think though that admins get buzzed whenever anyone votes so it's not falling on deaf ears, they're probably just busy sorting out someone else. I do find threatening the room with a visit from admin can sometimes work but it all depends on the room. And any repeat or bad offender can be followed when you e-mail screenshots of incidents and IP's of the said person to feedback. I've done this a couple of times for someone swearing at me alot and had a really nice email back thanking me etc. So they are there, it's just difficult for them to be there instantly.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:11 AM
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Hey but when admins are about, believe you me, they are worth there weight in gold

One thing that does annoy me, is when 2 players are cheating, you plus 1 other may try to boot 1 of them, then another player tries to boot the other cheater out, but then no one of you can boot, for a minute at least , so then the cheating players are left in the room, sometimes they even start to boot the players that warned them.
I am sure there must be a reason why we can only boot 1 at a time, but when trying to boot cheating players , which needs to 2 players to cheat, this 1 boot at a time, defeats the object.

With porn drawers, it is best ( if you know admin are are about) don't boot the player, just let 1 or 2 people warn, then hopefully admin will come to the room, see the porn draw, then ban them, this is how the 1 above was caught,
If you just all boot them, admin won't get to see the draw, hence wont ban them.

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Hey but when admins are about, believe you me, they are worth there weight in gold

One thing that does annoy me, is when 2 players are cheating, you plus 1 other may try to boot 1 of them, then another player tries to boot the other cheater out, but then no one of you can boot, for a minute at least , so then the cheating players are left in the room, sometimes they even start to boot the players that warned them.
I am sure there must be a reason why we can only boot 1 at a time, but when trying to boot cheating players , which needs to 2 players to cheat, this 1 boot at a time, defeats the object.
Is that when it says...."You or someone else has voted to boot that person" Or somthing like that....And then it won't let you vote that person?
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:27 AM
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One thing that does annoy me, is when 2 players are cheating, you plus 1 other may try to boot 1 of them, then another player tries to boot the other cheater out, but then no one of you can boot, for a minute at least , so then the cheating players are left in the room, sometimes they even start to boot the players that warned them.
I am sure there must be a reason why we can only boot 1 at a time, but when trying to boot cheating players , which needs to 2 players to cheat, this 1 boot at a time, defeats the object.
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Is that when it says...."You or someone else has voted to boot that person" Or somthing like that....And then it won't let you vote that person?
No not that message, I only get that if I try to boot/warn the same person, what I mean is, if you vote to boot some one, you can't then vote to boot any one else for a least 1 minute, it's says somethings like, too many votes at once.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:29 AM
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No not that message, I only get that if I try to boot/warn the same person, what I mean is, if you vote to boot some one, you can't then vote to boot any one else for a least 1 minute, it's says somethings like, too many votes at once.
Oh yeah i know what you mean. It's like sending pinks....only 3 at a time.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:17 PM
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Atreyu, I know how you feel... I go on isketch throughout the day, and I find that sometimes there are admins around while other times I can't find any help. But we just have to deal with that. I know you're not complaining about admins, but they do have lives.. and sometimes they are able to give more of their time, while at other times, they are not. But they do an amazing job when they're around. I haven't had any problems.

Personally, maybe a few more regular admins are needed, but I don't think this is something we can judge on. We don't know how many admins are on at a given time. And if the ones that we know aren't online, it doesn't mean that there aren't any on at all. It could be that other ones (that we don't know of) are busy in other rooms.

I do think you should contact feedback about your worries and frustrations. They can let you know what they think of it all. And they're very helpful in their replies.

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One thing that does annoy me, is when 2 players are cheating, you plus 1 other may try to boot 1 of them, then another player tries to boot the other cheater out, but then no one of you can boot, for a minute at least , so then the cheating players are left in the room, sometimes they even start to boot the players that warned them.
I am sure there must be a reason why we can only boot 1 at a time, but when trying to boot cheating players , which needs to 2 players to cheat, this 1 boot at a time, defeats the object.
And I understand what you mean about not being able to vote out another person straight after you vote to boot out someone else. It does get frustrating sometimes, however, I'm glad that we have that little 'pause'. If there vote abusers, it stops them from booting out a few people in a room, and it gives us a chance to react to their votes - vote them. So I like that the pause. :) Though I know sometimes it gets difficult when there is a serous amount of vote abuse from a few players at the same time. Eek..

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I totally agree with all of the above comments, and rarely go into a room where I don't know anyone. There's safety in numbers here, that's for sure. I have a dumb question, though... After you have copied the offensive draw or comment with the /copy function, and the image is saved to your clipboard, where do you find this magical clipboard, and how do you retrieve the image from it to send to feedback or to post it?
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:28 PM
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With porn drawers, it is best ( if you know admin are are about) don't boot the player, just let 1 or 2 people warn, then hopefully admin will come to the room, see the porn draw, then ban them, this is how the 1 above was caught,
If you just all boot them, admin won't get to see the draw, hence wont ban them.
if you're really concerned about being able to find admins quickly this is where ZeBadgers wrapper comes in handy with the extended buddy list that way you dont waste a lot of time with the /find function
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I totally agree with all of the above comments, and rarely go into a room where I don't know anyone. There's safety in numbers here, that's for sure. I have a dumb question, though... After you have copied the offensive draw or comment with the /copy function, and the image is saved to your clipboard, where do you find this magical clipboard, and how do you retrieve the image from it to send to feedback or to post it?
Well, on my computer I can just paste the copy into a photo program (I use Irfan View) and even Microsoft Word works. Save it as a jpg. or whatever type of file you use, then email it. Easy, smeazy.
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My philosophy on cheaters is that games are meant to be FUN and distract you from life. But when someone CHEATS it takes all the fun out of the game, completely defeating the purpose, and resulting in much frustration, the polar opposite of what you're playing for.

"Deal with it" is not a viable option (While this may sound absurd, it is heard quite often) for obvious reasons.. "Move to another room" is not viable, because they see it as a mandate to continue their actions, as Atreyu explained...

More admins WOULD be nice, but I assume it is a very frustrating position. You have to constantly be the judge, and I'm sure any parent of two or more would understand. The point is, not many "qualified" people are willing to volunteer their time to help the community. I know I sound cynical, but it's true. I would appreciate more admins just as much as the next person though, as there are never any to be found when I get booted out of a room for "cheating"..

Now, as for the pause between votes.. Imagine there's three friends in a room with 10-15 people in it. They could easily kick every single person out of the room, for whatever reason, within 20 seconds. So being able to vote in rapid succession is a liberty you'll have to do without, to cut down on vote abuse.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:33 PM
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"Deal with it" is not a viable option (While this may sound absurd, it is heard quite often) for obvious reasons.. "Move to another room" is not viable, because they see it as a mandate to continue their actions, as Atreyu explained...
It's hard finding a viable solution, but I never leave a room if there are trouble makers. I just can't run from that, sad but true. I've come across some weak people on isketch who do not have the courage to face abuse, for example, so I don't like leaving a room to find that they'll go off abusing someone else. I know some people are okay with it, but I personally don't like running from bullies, even if it does mean I have to end up being kicked into the lobby. Which I believe has happened a few times. lol

To be honest with you, I feel something like that won't ever be dealt with accurately because they are far too many bad people than there are of the admins who are running around the rooms. We're always going to find trouble and it will be hard at times, because we won't be able to find an admin at hand. And I know a solution (to help that) would be to have more regular admins, as previously stated, but I guess that's something that has to be forwarded to feedback.

It's a tough job. It requires a great deal of patience and courage, as we're aware that admins face more abuse than players a lot of the time. So I'm sure it's very hard to find someone who is suitable for the job. We could all be candidates, but I'm sure just a few would be able to deal with all the frustrations that come with it. And we must also remember that they receive a lot of Admin applications, so I'm sure it's hard enough getting through all of that to find someone who is suitable. It all causes delays.

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Now, as for the pause between votes.. Imagine there's three friends in a room with 10-15 people in it. They could easily kick every single person out of the room, for whatever reason, within 20 seconds. So being able to vote in rapid succession is a liberty you'll have to do without, to cut down on vote abuse.
Nicely stated. :) Sure, we get frustrated every now and then because we can't boot out one person straight after another (if there is more than one person playing up in the room), but it's worth it. If it was any other way, it would be a total mess.

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It's hard finding a viable solution, but I never leave a room if there are trouble makers. I just can't run from that, sad but true. I've come across some weak people on isketch who do not have the courage to face abuse, for example, so I don't like leaving a room to find that they'll go off abusing someone else. I know some people are okay with it, but I personally don't like running from bullies, even if it does mean I have to end up being kicked into the lobby. Which I believe has happened a few times. lol

To be honest with you, I feel something like that won't ever be dealt with accurately because they are far too many bad people than there are of the admins who are running around the rooms. We're always going to find trouble and it will be hard at times, because we won't be able to find an admin at hand. And I know a solution (to help that) would be to have more regular admins, as previously stated, but I guess that's something that has to be forwarded to feedback.

It's a tough job. It requires a great deal of patience and courage, as we're aware that admins face more abuse than players a lot of the time. So I'm sure it's very hard to find someone who is suitable for the job. We could all be candidates, but I'm sure just a few would be able to deal with all the frustrations that come with it. And we must also remember that they receive a lot of Admin applications, so I'm sure it's hard enough getting through all of that to find someone who is suitable. It all causes delays.



Nicely stated. :) Sure, we get frustrated every now and then because we can't boot out one person straight after another (if there is more than one person playing up in the room), but it's worth it. If it was any other way, it would be a total mess.

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Old 08-03-2007, 07:59 AM
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First of all I want to thank you all for your awesome support. It is comforting to know that people, such as yourselves, feel the same way too. Its means a lot to me that I can come here and vent my feelings about the game and receive warm and caring responses from people that really DO care!
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Jewels.... I agree wholeheartedly... Admins ARE worth their weight in gold! LOL @ hiking up kilt for admins!

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No not that message, I only get that if I try to boot/warn the same person, what I mean is, if you vote to boot some one, you can't then vote to boot any one else for a least 1 minute, it's says somethings like, too many votes at once.
Yes, that is the message I am talking about... When I vote to skip/boot the offender and no one else votes them, I am unable to vote them again, even if they do that very same thing on the following draws. I keep getting that same dang message over and over. Then they really think they get away with anything they want to. AAARGH!
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The reason you can only cast one vote is quite simply to prevent vote abuse ensuring that a player can only be skipped or booted by three individual players. Believe me there is a lot of vote abuse and this measure does go a long way to safeguarding the good players. I do know the frustration you are feeling and can promise you that admins really do try their best to answer as many player votes as possible.
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I'm glad this thread hasn't turned into a venting station about admins and is more based on how we can deal with it personally. I know the title says 'Lack of Admins' but that isn't really what we're getting it. We know that admin's do such a great job and I couldn't imagine life without admin's around to back us up.
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I'm glad this thread hasn't turned into a venting station about admins and is more based on how we can deal with it personally. I know the title says 'Lack of Admins' but that isn't really what we're getting it. We know that admin's do such a great job and I couldn't imagine life without admin's around to back us up.
Well said! I am currently the only Administrator online, and believe me when I say that it is hard on our end too! Hang in there!
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Yes kean, well said mate.
I think the admins do a great task on isketch, its like life nothing is perfect is it.
Things will never go 100 percent everyones way, look at the goverment for gods sake

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I went in a room filled with Newbies today, and they were drawing penis' and writing words out everywhere, luckily i had some friends with me and we like to play cleanly... so luckily we voted out all the cheaters penis drawers and letter writers, but even after all this vote commotion there were no admins to be found...
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I went in a room filled with Newbies today, and they were drawing penis' and writing words out everywhere, luckily i had some friends with me and we like to play cleanly... so luckily we voted out all the cheaters penis drawers and letter writers, but even after all this vote commotion there were no admins to be found...
Aww ele thats a shame, when your game gets spolied by idiots eh.
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