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Old 04-11-2011, 03:58 AM
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Aww it seems a shame to give up so soon. Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you agree with it or it goes against your thoughts, but don't be downhearted because a few people do oppose the idea, sometimes things have to change in order to improve. Things cannot improve without some element of change. It isn't always the case, but sometimes.

Yes we have new wordlists, the Lounge, Chat, the Studio and the introduction of Acromania to add new dimensions to the game and they all seem to be pretty successful. I'm sure other things have been implemented without a positive result, in which case they are scrapped. The point is I don't think anyone could accurately determine what new things iSketchers would like as part of the game.

I can see both pros and cons for this idea.
The whole concept of the game would be no different, you still play iSketch games to earn points and try to win the game. The only difference is that something else happens, like receiving an achievement or suchlike. At the end of the day, it's merely providing a choice.
The thing is, this new system will work more in favour of newbies because if it is implemented, everyone will be on the same starting level. And yes it may require registrations, but the /stats command shows your game statistics without registering. Wouldn't there be a way of storing the Experience Points or Achievements in a similar way to how the /stats command works?

Personally I think it's a great idea, but before giving up on the idea, I would strongly suggest you go through the official channels as already outlined in this thread. Your idea will be looked at by the "officials" of iSketch and whether it is accepted and implemented fully or not, they may use little snippets to test player's reactions to it.

If you decide to e-mail, then good luck :)

p.s. If you're still not sure, then I'll contact them for you. I'm interested to hear how they receive it :)
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:43 AM
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palace - I agree with db - just because I, or any other person doesn't necessarily agree with the individual points, doesn't mean the concept as a whole doesn't have merit somewhere (as I have actually already said a couple of times, and agreed with!). Giving up at the first hurdle, when some people are actually giving input, as you asked them to do, seems to show that you're not convinced of your own ideas. There is nothing wrong with having new ideas...not everyone is going to like them. But several of us have also suggested contacting feedback and running some things past them too...that in itself means we understand that new ideas can sometimes lead to new and exciting things. We may not all agree with everything, but it doesn't mean that it should stop the thought processes. You never know when you might hit on that special element that WILL make a big difference...unless you pursue it, and follow through. Good luck.
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Aww it seems a shame to give up so soon. Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you agree with it or it goes against your thoughts, but don't be downhearted because a few people do oppose the idea, sometimes things have to change in order to improve. Things cannot improve without some element of change. It isn't always the case, but sometimes.

Yes we have new wordlists, the Lounge, Chat, the Studio and the introduction of Acromania to add new dimensions to the game and they all seem to be pretty successful. I'm sure other things have been implemented without a positive result, in which case they are scrapped. The point is I don't think anyone could accurately determine what new things iSketchers would like as part of the game.

I can see both pros and cons for this idea.
The whole concept of the game would be no different, you still play iSketch games to earn points and try to win the game. The only difference is that something else happens, like receiving an achievement or suchlike. At the end of the day, it's merely providing a choice.
The thing is, this new system will work more in favour of newbies because if it is implemented, everyone will be on the same starting level. And yes it may require registrations, but the /stats command shows your game statistics without registering. Wouldn't there be a way of storing the Experience Points or Achievements in a similar way to how the /stats command works?

Personally I think it's a great idea, but before giving up on the idea, I would strongly suggest you go through the official channels as already outlined in this thread. Your idea will be looked at by the "officials" of iSketch and whether it is accepted and implemented fully or not, they may use little snippets to test player's reactions to it.

If you decide to e-mail, then good luck :)

p.s. If you're still not sure, then I'll contact them for you. I'm interested to hear how they receive it :)
Thanks for support, but out of all the people you are most interested in this idea anyway. You have also come up with more ideas than I actually have so why don't you email the iSketch people the list of rules you created earlier this week. You don't have to but if you want them to see it you can be the one that emails them.

I have decided not to continue because you cannot get all the iSketch players to read this forum and not a large number of people read this forum at the moment (no offense).

If you want to email them then go ahead. But I won't be doing it.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:52 PM
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I have decided not to continue because you cannot get all the iSketch players to read this forum and not a large number of people read this forum at the moment (no offense).

If you want to email them then go ahead. But I won't be doing it.
That's fair enough, thank you for discussing the idea. Whether it's successful or not it's nice to know that you may have contributed to the game we all love :)
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:44 PM
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I like the idea. From what I have seen there are a few major groups of players on iSketch.

1. Newbs (stumbling onto the game, not sure what to expect, often rude etc etc but we were all one once upon a time)
2. Socializers (you know, those people on away, or who have low scores but will still draw when its their chance)
3. Sketchers (those who are art masters, draw in themes, use shading, etc)
4. Competitors (those who try to win every game)

Now most people are some combination of these. I think the most recent changes to iSketch have all been pandering to the Sketcher group. Bigger screen, more tools in studio etc etc. Those of us who have competitive nature would like to get a bone thrown our way too. Now maybe if we don't have unlockables, but your level is shown next to your name. Your level only increases based on wins (maybe 1 pt per win in a room with 5+ people, 2 if you have 100+ points). Then make a room where people with 30+ points are allowed in, and their the competitors can go. I know I would like something like that.
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:50 PM
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Jmac - I agree that some sort of points system for 'achievement' in the game, giving a points rank by your name, or an icon rank would be an interesting and perhaps encouraging thing for many. An added fun dimension.
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I'd favour some kind of "rank" system based on losses and wins (similar to Yahoo! Games was when I played it 100 years ago), rather than a level which can only increase over time.

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New player gets some arbitrary number like 1000.
Winning/being in top X of players increases your number.
Losing/being in bottom X of players decreases your number (to some minimum value so that people don't get too humiliated).
iSketch winners get some sexy number (and if we copied Yahoo! even more, maybe coloured versions of noob dots).
Newbie-001: "WHWOHWOHWWOAAAHAHAO did you see Jmac? His rank is 9109210291901299201 and he has a gold dot beside his name. I want to have his babies"

This kind of system might be too complex to work with iSketch though (but maybe not, thinking about Jmacs suggestions). And I suppose we could have an option to hide your rank.

I'm also not sure that registrations would be needed, since iSketch already separates newbies from regulars and stores stats info. They'd really just need to process the stats (or more detailed stats), and make them public (and also stop them from resetting so easily). Registrations would certainly enhance the system massively though.

I don't visit iSketch often enough anymore for my opinion to count for anything; but I would have enjoyed this in my more competitive days. I don't think we should hold our breaths though.

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I'd favour some kind of "rank" system based on losses and wins (similar to Yahoo! Games was when I played it 100 years ago), WOW...you're doing well for your age! rather than a level which can only increase over time.

Example:

New player gets some arbitrary number like 1000.
Winning/being in top X of players increases your number.
Losing/being in bottom X of players decreases your number (to some minimum value so that people don't get too humiliated).
iSketch winners get some sexy number (and if we copied Yahoo! even more, maybe coloured versions of noob dots).
Newbie-001: "WHWOHWOHWWOAAAHAHAO did you see Jmac? His rank is 9109210291901299201 and he has a gold dot beside his name. I want to have his babies"

This kind of system might be too complex to work with iSketch though (but maybe not, thinking about Jmacs suggestions). And I suppose we could have an option to hide your rank.

I'm also not sure that registrations would be needed, since iSketch already separates newbies from regulars and stores stats info. They'd really just need to process the stats (or more detailed stats), and make them public (and also stop them from resetting so easily). Registrations would certainly enhance the system massively though.

I don't visit iSketch often enough anymore for my opinion to count for anything; You still play iSketch every now and then, you're still a member here, you HAVE played iSketch for a long time...why wouldn't your opinion count? I think you have some good ideas here! but I would have enjoyed this in my more competitive days. I don't think we should hold our breaths though.
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If any of you are serious about this idea, send a email to the head iSketch guy. I know I am still here but I just want to see this out.

Keep contributing and hopefully someone connected with iSketch will read this.
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:41 AM
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1. Newbs (stumbling onto the game, not sure what to expect, often rude etc etc but we were all one once upon a time)
2. Socializers (you know, those people on away, or who have low scores but will still draw when its their chance)
3. Sketchers (those who are art masters, draw in themes, use shading, etc)
4. Competitors (those who try to win every game)
Fantastic thought about defining groups of iSketchers, it may be easier to think about the benefits/drawbacks each idea brings to each of these groups.

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Now most people are some combination of these.
Absolutely, personally I'd describe myself as a socialiser/competitor, but different people have varying traits. Even newbies have their respective "groups".

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I'd favour some kind of "rank" system based on losses and wins....rather than a level which can only increase over time.
Nice idea, Mario Kart on the Wii has a similar scoring style, and personally I love that game.

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iSketch winners get some sexy number...
I know certain people will groan, as I mentioned this a lot in the past, but on a serious note the /effi, magic number thingy could be used for storing the rank number thing. I honestly think "effi" is an abbreviation of the word "efficiency", so would probably be able to calculate the new scores.
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hmm, /effi is quite mysterious.. i like the whole idea of you wanting there to be more competition, maybe someday you will log on and be like ''that was my suggestion''
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hm this is an interesting idea, palace. i don't think i agree with using experience points to inadvertently restrict access to things. however, i do think that this would be an interesting opt-in system. yes, isketch for the sake of isketch and chilling is great, but i am ridiculously competitive and wouldn't mind having a system that could let me fuel that if i so choose. with that said, chances of it happening are slim....
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I presume 25 consecutive wins will unlock the Tactical Nuke?
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