My friend KimTaekYoung was using iSketch and got banned for arguing with an admin.

The argument was over another user coming into the room, making derisive racist remarks about Koreans, and an admin in that same room refused to boot or ban said player. Thus my friend got into an argument with said admin, and was banned from isketch.

<removed> was the admin

Bannable? At the very least i want <removed>'s admin privileges to be stripped for such a blatant abuse of power.

Racism of any form in person and on the internet is inexcusable, especially since there are children using this service.

Just my two cents...

info@isketch.net are they only ones who can help you so give them an email if you feel you have a problem.

And please do not name and shame any admins on the forum.

As already stated this complaint should be sent to info@isketch.net as this forum is not officially affiliated with iSketch in any way other then by name and by its members only.

Also as already stated please do not name Admins on this forum. If an Admin wishes to be known by their name they are welcome to show themselves, otherwise they are afforded the privilege of anonymity.

I find that the no racism rules are very....subjective.

I was in a room a while ago where one user was making fairly racist comments (though denying that they were racist, and getting offended that I called her out on it), and some noob jumped in with the "N" word. I and another person voted him, an admin came in the room, and all that was done was something along the lines of "Please do not make racist comments in the public rooms". The admin waited around a couple of minutes, and then left the room.

This and many other rules or even just items of common courtesy I find are so differing from admin to admin. It's quite frustrating sometimes, and I understand where you are coming from, thekingkobra. Also, some admins seem to have worse tempers than others...I hope you were able to sort something out through Feedback.

They are only human! ;P

True, but if that temper leads to somebody getting kicked or even banned, it does raise some questions. Like I said...it's all very subjective and it can be quite frustrating sometimes. Granted, I like the presence of admins most times, but when the rules are not enforced consistently, it becomes a little annoying.

But it seems people can't really complain much on here anyway without being told to use the ignore function or go to Feedback. This is supposed to be a discussion forum for things related to iSketch. It would be nice if there could be some open discussion sometimes instead of just the basic premise of "Please don't whine and complain to us - email Feedback or use /IGNORE"

I dunno....rant over..

I think I would be the same if I was ever banned from iSketch. My first port of call would be to come here and look for answers, as this forum looks all official. The fact is though, that there is no official forum, and this one was made by iSketch fans and not the iSketch admins, so any help that could be given cannot be directly given here. Most of us here already know that, and we can only pass that information on to others.

I can see there would be pros and cons of having an official iSketch forum.
Pros would be things like being able to interact with the different admins, having a worldwide community and perhaps getting your name officially shown on iSketch.
Amongst the cons, in my opinion, would be that the forum would be more open to abuse towards admins and other players, the forum would be full of ban complaints, and hence may lead to discussion of possible ban avoidance. Plus some admins like to stay anonymous so they may not even be on such a forum.

With regards to actual admin dealings with troublesome people, it would be nice for consistency, which there should be all the time. As it can be seen from words already in this thread, everyone has different tolerances of racism. If your personal feeling is that they have crossed the line, then indeed vote. Don't forget that everyone has access to copy the text from the chat box and from the game box and also to copy images drawn from the canvas, which can easily be sent to Feedback.

Perhaps there should be a different e-mail address for people just wanting to discuss their ban, and I believe that everyone deserves the right to discuss it in private if they wish. Plus if it's private between the banned player and the Feedback team, any admin names can be discussed.

I'm just happy the way it is :)

Heh, if this Forum would become official, it would turn out to be an open Feedback, with all the people wanting to be unbanned.
I am not waiting for such emails or lies about 'I haven't done anything' 'my little brother did it', 'my nephew/dog or trained hamster drew a cock' please let me in.
We see enough immaturity at iSketch itself, let's keep those emails flowing to info@isketch.net. and preferably away from here.
Let's keep this Forum unofficial, nice and clean. I think the moderators are doing a great job here. *insert thumbs up icon here*

I can understand that it would feel quite hopeless just emailing Feedback (along with those who were rightly banned but are still protesting) and having a place to discuss the incidents would make it seem as though something were being done, but I think only Rob + a few others deal with the issue of (un)banning and they probably don't want a public trial each time someone appeals a ban + the obvious spammage that would occur from those who were rightly banned.

I like the idea of a form with the points that iSnack2.0 mentioned - 1) Name and time, 2) reason banned, 3) admin who banned, and 4) a screenshot of some sort - being the route to appeal the ban (rather than lumping everything together at "Feedback") and this would mean that the Admin would have to show their identity when banning someone.

1) Name and time, 2) reason banned, 3) admin who banned, and 4) a screenshot of some sort - being the route to appeal the ban (rather than lumping everything together at "Feedback") and this would mean that the Admin would have to show their identity when banning someone.


I like that idea too. Maybe when you click on feedback, a link that says "Banned? Click here" or something. Might help feedback streamline their process as well.

I like the idea of having another e-mail address for unban requests, it might help divide general enquiries and these unban requests. I like the form idea too, but a lot of people don't know the name of the admin who performed the ban/block, as they don't have to show themselves. It could be an option though :)

a lot of people don't know the name of the admin who performed the ban/block, as they don't have to show themselves.
This is true but, I think a bit unfair. If an admin is going to ban someone (i.e. permanently) and there is a genuine mistake or an unjust banning (as admin are human, after all), then it is important that the said admin is known. I'm sure the vast majority of admin are acting in good faith and so should not have a problem with this, but there may be some who are interpreting the code of conduct in the wrong way.

In the iSketch world, banning a player is the ultimate use of admin power and so a bit of accountability would be helpful, along with giving the reason for the ban (don't know if this is a requirement at the moment).

If an admin is going to ban someone (i.e. permanently) and there is a genuine mistake or an unjust banning (as admin are human, after all), then it is important that the said admin is known.

I completely agree. In any instances that this might happen, the "unban form" could be very useful, and hopefully the banned player's collection of evidence (screenshots and copies of text that could be asked for in the form) will back up their story.

In the iSketch world, banning a player is the ultimate use of admin power and so a bit of accountability would be helpful, along with giving the reason for the ban (don't know if this is a requirement at the moment).

Agreed. I'm sure most admins will admit a mistake on the occasion that there is one, and I would hope that efforts will be made to correct the problem. I don't know how often this happens (only the admins know that, I imagine), but I guess the only real forms of telling a player what they have done wrong are in the ban/block message or via PM.

I dont think this currently happens, but I believe that the admin should have to document with a screenshot, time, ip etc (all that information is accessible with one single screenshot) when they BAN a player (blocks would be too much work) so that if a player wants an explanation, one is on hand. That way it doesnt turn into a "he said" "she said" argument.

... If an admin is going to ban someone ... then it is important that the said admin is known...

Just to maintain the anonymity of the admins, they could have a number-id or something. The user gets the number, feedback knows the name. Abstraction and Encryption. This is the internet, after all.

Actually, sometimes the admins do catalogue certain offenses.

I know of a particular case where someone who was blocked (might have been banned...) for a bit because of a questionable draw, months later this player was arguing the block was unjust, and the admin in the room (different than the one that had originally blocked him) said the draw was on "file".

Isketch admins is just like Fox News.

fair and balanced? - I don't agree!

Jizzing4Jesus, if you have a problem with an Admin or wish to report an abusive admin use info@isketch.net

Do not start ranting and raving on this unaffiliated fan run forum about it.

Isketch admins is just like Fox News.

fair and balanced? - I don't agree!


One major difference. Fox News has the chicks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ16u-szAhQ

Just to maintain the anonymity of the admins, they could have a number-id or something. The user gets the number, feedback knows the name. Abstraction and Encryption. This is the internet, after all.

I love the idea, perhaps it should be a varied number-ID though, otherwise these number-IDs will be matched to admin names. Then, if there are any ban complaints on the forum, the number-IDs can be displayed instead of names and could be a way of communicating with Feedback :)

I love the idea, perhaps it should be a varied number-ID though, otherwise these number-IDs will be matched to admin names. Then, if there are any ban complaints on the forum, the number-IDs can be displayed instead of names and could be a way of communicating with Feedback :)

Something like a warning/block/ban identification number thats unique to the admin action, and is also logged behind the scenes so the number can be used in feedback to reference the log, but being a unique ID would be different every time even if by the same admin and the same action.

Yes, like an event number. For example, the player would see something like this:

You were kicked out by the Administrator (Admin message) #59274

where 59274 is the event number. This could be used as the unique identifier for feedback complaints :)