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Juuuooooonnn
04-04-2007, 03:19 AM
I would be curious how others handle the people who will toil on a drawing of, say, a racecar... Ignoring requests for hints, only to have time expire and the game announce the word was 'tree'.

Do you usually wait for the second offending action and warn, or just go straight to boot? Just curious... Seems to be a lot of that going around...

2.0
04-04-2007, 04:54 AM
Depends, if the drawing was just obscure, and in the end it could be understood as the word, i don't do anything but complain about it, but there's not much that can be done as obscuring draws is not against the rules as long as they relate to the word.

Now, if you get say... tree, and the bastard draws a car, i give them a warning. Second time around they get a vote. And one has to wonder why often it takes just one vote to boot them.

Ches
04-04-2007, 05:00 AM
I enjoy drawing the word in an unusual way sometimes. It makes it more interesting I think. And I always ignore:

hint
hint
HINT
HINT
HINT!!!!
HINT!!!!!!!!!!

But if they make no effort to draw the word at all, then I'd be keen to skip them on their next draw to avoid waiting through another pointless round. :twisted:

Bad_MaNneR$
04-04-2007, 07:25 AM
I recently played some muppet who decided that for the word BONGO he would draw a door - a man - and a traffic light.

He had been doing this for the past few ganes and I was blowing up galore - but he had some oher muppet with him who kept saying "it's only a game" - I replied "Yes but its MY LEISURE TIME and that idiot is wasting it!"

A friendly Admin who plays in the same room occasionally booted him for irrelevant draws.

His friend kept on about how it was bongo and that was what he was drawing - I understand the "go" part but what the bloody hell relevance was a door and a man?

This other player kept whining and saying "Oh - he says blah, blah, blah and he was bored" on MSN - to which I replied - "Well if he was bored then tell him to go play on the railway lines or find someone else's time to waste and not mine - besides the Admin booted him fairly"

Whine whine whine - Ignore

I usually use the Warn button, but if they do it again I will state in the chat box my reason and warn them that way - then (usually when I have support) I will hit the boot button if they keep up the irrelevant draws.

/SLAP noobs-who-say-HINT-when-the-drawing-has-been-guessed.

BB
04-04-2007, 08:18 AM
Off topic draws are indeed against the rules and can result in being kicked by an admin. An important point to remember though is that the artist has the entire draw time to complete their picture. Therefore until that time is up and the round is actually over you don't know for certain that the draw is off topic and so a skip vote would not be appropriate.

Ignoring requests for hints, only to have time expire and the game announce the word was 'tree'.

Please remember that hints cost the artist points and are given entirely at their discretion. Repeated calls for hints are not fair on the artist and could result in a caution if an admin is present.

jewels
04-04-2007, 09:07 AM
Off topic draws are indeed against the rules and can result in being kicked by an admin.

This is where I find this a grey area, I often draw off topic, but never with the intent to mislead.

EG mango ( like many ) I draw a man then traffic signals pointing to go

war I draw a wardrobe

Foreman I draw sounds like 4 then + man.

I won't name to many as every one will be able to guess all my draws now:embarrassed: , so although these are off topic, they are not misleading, however I'm not drawing the word in question, so is this type of drawing allowed ? I have read the rules many times but still unsure. Although I did once get warned from admin for drawing off topic, the word was crumpet , where here in the uk men sometimes refer to a sexy lady as crumpet, so I drew a sexy lady, more than half the players got it, (which if I had of drawn the crumpet as in the food ,noone would have got it ) however after getting my warning from admin, I explained what crumpet meant in the uk, the admin did apologize, which I took that draws like this must be allowed then .

edit: drives me mad when players type hint hint hint hint, after players have already guessed the word.

Fy_Nyte
04-04-2007, 11:23 AM
EG mango ( like many ) I draw a man then traffic signals pointing to go

war I draw a wardrobe

Foreman I draw sounds like 4 then + man.

I don't think that's "off-topic" at all.... It seems that timing is crucial. eg: If you draw a "man", then 55 seconds later draw the "go" then that's a bit silly. But if you draw at a normal/regular pace then it's ok.

But who I am to judge on speed!? The time limit's 1 minute (English Easy UK) And as BB mentioned, the artist is allowed to use all of that time.

/flirt jewels' "off-topic draws"

Juuuooooonnn
04-04-2007, 11:45 AM
Oh, I'm all for drawing words in unusual ways. It keeps the game from being monotonous....

There are a lot of interesting ideas here... Have to admit I never thought about the 'hint abuse' concept. I'll have to keep that in mind.

Buffers
04-04-2007, 11:51 AM
lol.... Some people type 'hint' before the line starts to be drawn!

There are others, who when a reg uses one stroke, will vote because they think they're not drawing anything. What's the official line on one stroke in normal rooms (none 5ers)? It's not a misleading draw, but a lot of people, unless they know the reg in question, might not know what's being done.

Sorry... BB already answered.. the artist is allowed the time alloted to make their draw. :smile:

Juuuooooonnn
04-04-2007, 01:37 PM
Please explain your 'one stroke' comment... It went right over my head (which is nothing unusual). Are there one-stroke rooms? I've seen five-stroke rooms...

(Insert one-stroke-joke here)

Fy_Nyte
04-04-2007, 02:35 PM
There aren't one-stroke rooms, but you can limit yourself to one-stroke in any room.

When you draw with one-stroke (I'm sure you already know this) , nothing shows up. So silly newbies tend to vote on you because they think you are wasting time.

BB
04-04-2007, 02:53 PM
This is where I find this a grey area, I often draw off topic, but never with the intent to mislead.

EG mango ( like many ) I draw a man then traffic signals pointing to go

war I draw a wardrobe

Foreman I draw sounds like 4 then + man.

I won't name to many as every one will be able to guess all my draws now:embarrassed: , so although these are off topic, they are not misleading, however I'm not drawing the word in question, so is this type of drawing allowed ? I have read the rules many times but still unsure. Although I did once get warned from admin for drawing off topic, the word was crumpet , where here in the uk men sometimes refer to a sexy lady as crumpet, so I drew a sexy lady, more than half the players got it, (which if I had of drawn the crumpet as in the food ,noone would have got it ) however after getting my warning from admin, I explained what crumpet meant in the uk, the admin did apologize, which I took that draws like this must be allowed then .

edit: drives me mad when players type hint hint hint hint, after players have already guessed the word.

None of those you mention are off topic Jewels they are simply drawing the word by breaking it down so stop worrying :smile:

MsNerdinator
04-04-2007, 04:04 PM
I recently played some muppet who decided that for the word BONGO he would draw a door - a man - and a traffic light.

Lol, most of their drawings carried the same sort of 'style'. I know people have been divided in their thoughts as to whether or not they are on or off topic. But when the timer runs out and you see what the word is, it leaves you scratching your head, and it gets tiring when you see it over and over again. :/ I agreed with that admin boot. Like you've said, it was fair.

Not sure why peoople would want to draw like that, but if they do want to, maybe we should encourage them (more often) to go do it in a user created room.

As far as Juuuooooonnn's original question, my personal attitude is, if the drawing is off topic the first time around (after the timer is up), I only tell them to draw on topic or people will start to boot them out. If they do it a second time, then I vote to boot them (but I always lean on the cautious side - that is, to wait 'til the timer has finished -- as BB has stated). I feel giving them a second chance is fair because sometimes they do apologise and then play as normal (bless them..;D). And sometimes they actually end up being really nice people, that are fun to play/talk with... :razz:

God, I love the UK easy rooms... heh.

Buffers
04-04-2007, 06:30 PM
LOL... after the 3rd unrelated draw... I utter these immortal words in the game box: 'If this is unrelated... I'm voting.' lol :razz:

jewels
06-04-2007, 09:46 AM
EG mango ( like many ) I draw a man then traffic signals pointing to go
war I draw a wardrobe
Foreman I draw sounds like 4 then + man.



/flirt jewels' "off-topic draws"

None of those you mention are off topic Jewels they are simply drawing the word by breaking it down so stop worrying :smile:

If you want to know how I drew peacock:embarrassed:last night best ask Tf or buffers.

TempusFugit
06-04-2007, 11:13 AM
lmao.. yes.. it was pretty shocking :razz:

/me puts it down to the fact that Jewels was waiting for Mr. Jewels and didn't really have iSketch on her mind :razz:

Buffers
06-04-2007, 11:15 AM
LOL.. I need to say NOTHING.,. TF said it all lmao

Steiny
06-04-2007, 01:03 PM
I recently played some muppet who decided that for the word BONGO he would draw a door - a man - and a traffic light.
<snip>
I understand the "go" part but what the bloody hell relevance was a door and a man?
(As loathe as I am to sound like I'm defending the individual in question...) I was in the room for that particular incident, and when the answer was finally revealed at the time I did actually realise the intent of the various parts of the draw. We've established the "go". One of the other parts I recognised as "on"... though I can't recall completely clearly now, I think it was the man standing on top of a box-shape. Whatever was left I know I saw the connection to "B" after the reveal, but that in itself is a violation of the rule for "drawing individual letters".

Whatever the case, it was one of the worst pieces of scrawl I've seen on iSketch. The drawing definitely deserved the vote, though in my opinion it wasn't so much for being misleading, but more that it was just so s---house as to make the parts unrecognisable (in spirit, and the B thing in technicality). :biggrin:

aerochick
06-04-2007, 08:11 PM
/me wonders what the opinion of the forum would be on drawing a picture of sand if the word was sandwich, therefore making everyone work just a bit harder, but perhaps finding the answer is all the more gratifying?

twister
06-04-2007, 09:57 PM
In reference to aerochick's using sand as part of sandwich, I'd consider that a pun draw like in mish mash. I welcome that type of wit. I'd probably draw a witch sunbathing on the beach for that one.

I wish it was mandatory for boobs (I mean newbs) to read the rules prior to playing & log in a certain number of hours in newbie rooms before being allowed to venture out into "normal" rooms.

Sometimes you just want to jump in a game and play with regulars to relax and have fun without having to babysit a bunch of newbies. Having to babysit the young and in manure isn't exactly my idea of entertaining. And, no, not all newbies are boobies.

Three cheers for the administrators who try their best to make playing a nicer experience for all!

jewels
06-04-2007, 10:16 PM
I wish it was mandatory for boobs (I mean newbs) to read the rules prior to playing & log in a certain number of hours in newbie rooms before being allowed to venture out into "normal" rooms.

I posted the exact same thing a while ago, I named the rooms training rooms, also violaters/naughty players would also have to spend time in there before being allowed back into normal rooms. However this would possibly cause regular players who are using a different pc the issue of not being able to join the regular rooms, however if and when player registrations start this would overcome this issue. Question is would the powers that be, agree to this:rolleyes:

Fy_Nyte
06-04-2007, 10:22 PM
I wish it was mandatory for boobs (I mean newbs)

And, no, not all newbies are boobies.

lol! Did you really mean to call them boobs/boobies? Or did you forget just how close "B" and "N" are on the keyboard - twice? :razz:

twister
07-04-2007, 11:37 PM
Not an error. ;) Boobs = Newbies with brains on vacation, brain shortage, or no brains at all.:biggrin:

2.0
08-04-2007, 02:38 AM
boobies!
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/14875/2002705692546827590_rs.jpg

Seriously though, everyone should make an effort to point noobs/boobs to the intructions page, be it trying really hard for them to notice the big "instructions" sign under the chat box or sending them a link. I've seen many benefit from this.

Fender
09-04-2007, 06:58 PM
The other night I had to argue with somebody that a personal message was not a violating offence, it was only "ok!" or somesuch that somebody wrote in the corner. They were insistant that no letters means NO letters. They claimed to have been playing for aaaaages, and then admitted they'd never read the instructions *sigh*

I love doing a one stroke draw but quite a few times I've had people vote me for it. Could Rob install something suitable to use in response .. perhaps involving rabid ferrets and the voter's underwear?

As to misleading draws: I love to throw a curveball, "rocket" being ET getting stoned (with rocks) etc, but tend to reserve them for when the room is predominately regs or, if I'm feeling evil, there's somebody annoying/abusive in the room and I'm trying to wind them up a bit. Hey, we all need a hobby :razz:

JoshuaCaleb
07-05-2007, 12:49 PM
I am glad I do not do this, ever.

Dean
28-05-2007, 12:04 PM
lol Josh You are the master of drawing 3 -4 different Objects before drawing the word. I dont think making a word harder than it is belongs in the "training" rooms. I'm all for people drawing something like a gingerbread man for gin or something like that to make a word easy.

Bad_MaNneR$
28-05-2007, 01:27 PM
I like to do that - especially if the word is too bloody hard to draw. Like "imp" so many people draw ugly pixies or dwarves, when all they need do is draw a face with a red spot for pimple.

As long as the word gets guessed then it's not really against the rules is it? I mean the object is to make people guess the word by using pictures and not words.

/me points to his avatar (That's my picture for the newbies)/