alright so i know.. this is a little dorky... but........

The new Harry Potter book is coming out in 20 days and im pretty excited i dont know about anyone else.. and the 5th movie is also coming out in a month or so, just wondering about everyone's thoughts on Mr. Potter. maybe we can discuss things in books or whatnot..

this is one of the few books that i've actually taken the time to read for fun, and it's worth it too, J.K. Rowling writes excellently and takes the time to help you visualize every detail. perfectly mapping out the story for her readers, while at the same time not giving it away. :razz:

I LOVE HARRY POTTER!

okay. some of my theories for the seventh book:

remember when Harry was helping out to clean 12 Grimmauld Place in the 5th book? he came across an old, heavy locket. my guess is that the locket is a horcrux. Slytherin's locket.
The Mirror of Erised is described as having heavy gold claws. one of the horcruxes might have been owned by Ravenclaw, since Voldemort had an obsession with Hogwarts. that's another guess for a horcrux, though not as likely.
JK Rowling has told us that the fact that Dumbledore had Harry's father's invisibility cloak the night Voldemort came for them is important. i think that Harry is going to use a time-turner and go back to the night that his parents were killed, and tell Dumbledore what to do with his baby self.
Dumbledore is dead for sure, JKR told us that when she was doing a reading in New York.
Snape is good.
i'm still undecided as to whether Harry will live or die. :(

wow.. i just read them, i didnt read into them lol

:embarrassed:
i listen to a Harry Potter podcast. they really, really really go into details.

so Deathly Hallows is the title of book 7. apparently that's too hard to translate into some languages, so JKR gave an alternative title - Harry Potter and the Relics of Death. i think that that pretty much confirms that it's about horcruxes.

I LOVE HARRY POTTER!

okay. some of my theories for the seventh book:

remember when Harry was helping out to clean 12 Grimmauld Place in the 5th book? he came across an old, heavy locket. my guess is that the locket is a horcrux. Slytherin's locket.
The Mirror of Erised is described as having heavy gold claws. one of the horcruxes might have been owned by Ravenclaw, since Voldemort had an obsession with Hogwarts. that's another guess for a horcrux, though not as likely.
JK Rowling has told us that the fact that Dumbledore had Harry's father's invisibility cloak the night Voldemort came for them is important. i think that Harry is going to use a time-turner and go back to the night that his parents were killed, and tell Dumbledore what to do with his baby self.
Dumbledore is dead for sure, JKR told us that when she was doing a reading in New York.
Snape is good.
i'm still undecided as to whether Harry will live or die. :(

Locket
Ok me and my bro and mum had a theory... the locket that they found in the cave.. the note inside had the innitials R.C.B i think... and yeah, the locket inside Grimmauld place that they couldn't open... well, Sirius had a brother haned Regulus Black... R.B? so, maybe that's why Regulus was killed, because he has stolen the locket.

5th movie looks kickin.. im glad they
have Grawp.. i was afraid they wouldnt have him.. im upset they didnt have Winky in the 4th movie.. ah well...

I'm glad someone made a HP thread! I'm excited about the movie and last book coming out soon. I'm re-reading the other books now in run up to the finale.

/me is comfortable with how geeky that all sounded.

Wow gracie i love them theorys, the using the time turner thing would be great, a bit of a 'butterfly effect' ending.
I heard about the snape being good thing on a website, something about how when he said 'please serverous' he meant please kill him, cos of the unforgivable vow and there being no other way around it.
i dont know how to spoiler this, sorry.
talking about this stuff gets me geet excited for the book :embarrassed:

/me has preordered deathly hallows and already has reserved seats for july 11th at 9pm.

MUAHAHAHAHA.

Locket
Ok me and my bro and mum had a theory... the locket that they found in the cave.. the note inside had the innitials R.C.B i think... and yeah, the locket inside Grimmauld place that they couldn't open... well, Sirius had a brother haned Regulus Black... R.B? so, maybe that's why Regulus was killed, because he has stolen the locket.


ooh yes, i forgot about that one. the initials are actually RAB. have you noticed that in the Black family, everyone is named after a star except for Narcissa? JKR says that it's because she's always imagined that character as a Narcissa. anyways. the rest of them are named after stars. and apparently their middle names too - JKR gave us a hint for the star she used for Regulus Black's middle name; the distance from the Earth and blah blah blah. his middle name is Arcturus. think that pretty much confirms that he's RAB, and it also makes sense that the locket would be in the Black House.

I'm working at my old bookshop on midnight of the opening of Harry Potter. It's really cool cos we decorate the whole place in the Hogwarts theme. Black drapes, music, loads of candles....so excited! We did it for the last 2 books and it was so much fun.

I've not read any of the books :eek: Just never got round to it, lol

Watch the first film one xmas but fell asleep, but that was probably the red wine :embarrassed:

The Mirror of Erised is described as having heavy gold claws. one of the horcruxes might have been owned by Ravenclaw, since Voldemort had an obsession with Hogwarts. that's another guess for a horcrux, though not as likely.
A very good guess - seems pretty likely.
JK Rowling has told us that the fact that Dumbledore had Harry's father's invisibility cloak the night Voldemort came for them is important. i think that Harry is going to use a time-turner and go back to the night that his parents were killed, and tell Dumbledore what to do with his baby self.
Not going to happen. The timeturners were all destroyed in the 5th book

i'm still undecided as to whether Harry will live or die. :(
Live, I reckon. If she kills him, it'll totally ruin it, because Evil will win over Good. Personally I think she's going to kill both of them. That way, Harry can win, yet no-one else will be able to try & carry on his story.

I also think...Hagrid will die. From the first time I came across him I was like "He's going to die." Plus, near the end of the 6th book, after Dumbledore dies, it says something about how Harry saw everyone who cared for & protected him die, & Hagrid is surely the next person to go if that's the case...



5th movie looks kickin.. im glad they
have Grawp.. i was afraid they wouldnt have him.. im upset they didnt have Winky in the 4th movie.. ah well...
Arghh I'm not. The chapter on Grawp bored me so much when I read the book.
On re-reads I skipped it most times.


Err & I think somewhere along the line, Harry's going to be given the portrait of Dumbledore to talk to. 'Coz surely that'd help.



....

So yes, I'm excited :D
Previously I always got to read it first here, but this year my sister wants to. So we're buying two copies so we can read it at the same time, & then selling one on to a friend of my mums, who isn't going to read it til October!!

I think I bought the third book at midnight -haha! And the sixth in Austria.

Pity I'll just be back from Scotland when the 7th is coming out. Would've made it special.

Don't know, Rowling's writing is certainly not brilliant... but the story is so exciting! haha

A very good guess - seems pretty likely.

Not going to happen. The timeturners were all destroyed in the 5th book
who says ALL the time turners are owned by the ministry? and who says they can't make more? :P


Live, I reckon. If she kills him, it'll totally ruin it, because Evil will win over Good. Personally I think she's going to kill both of them. That way, Harry can win, yet no-one else will be able to try & carry on his story.
yeah, there's been a lot of talk about how JKR won't want anyone to write sequels. i'm pretty sure that the good side will win. just not sure whether Harry survives it or not.

I also think...Hagrid will die. From the first time I came across him I was like "He's going to die." Plus, near the end of the 6th book, after Dumbledore dies, it says something about how Harry saw everyone who cared for & protected him die, & Hagrid is surely the next person to go if that's the case...
i also think Ron might die. it would be kind of unrealistic if they were in a 'war' and all Harry, Hermione and Ron survive. plus, remember the chess game in Book 1? Ron gets "killed" by the queen? a lot of people have been speculating that the seven tasks in the first book have parallels to each book. there are some theories that Voldemort represents the King in Chess, and Bellatrix is the Queen. so Bellatrix will kill Ron?
:(
Err & I think somewhere along the line, Harry's going to be given the portrait of Dumbledore to talk to. 'Coz surely that'd help.
yeah, i think maybe the Chocolate Frog cards? or McGonnagall's office, now that she's the Head.

Even though they have got progressively worse since book 4, I'm sure to still buy 2 copies when it comes out (so me and the bird can read at the same time. lol).

It better turn things around though, although I doubt its possible for it to be any worse than the last book. Tosh.

Quite interested to see the new film too... Order of the Phoenix had sod all happen in it either. lol

It may not seem it, but I really am a fan! I'm just bitter cos I felt cheated by HBP.

It may not seem it, but I really am a fan! I'm just bitter cos I felt cheated by HBP.

yeah i felt that the 6th one was quite weak.

who says ALL the time turners are owned by the ministry? and who says they can't make more? :P
I thought I heard it somewhere in an interview..
Plus in the 3rd, when Hermione gets one, it says that McGonagall had had to apply to the ministry & it was breaking a lot of rules to get it or something.
I think they're pretty hard to come by.

i also think Ron might die. it would be kind of unrealistic if they were in a 'war' and all Harry, Hermione and Ron survive. plus, remember the chess game in Book 1? Ron gets "killed" by the queen? a lot of people have been speculating that the seven tasks in the first book have parallels to each book. there are some theories that Voldemort represents the King in Chess, and Bellatrix is the Queen. so Bellatrix will kill Ron?
:(
Yep, I think Ron's off too. Hadn't heard anything about that parellels thing, but it sounds pretty likely, although maybe not that they parallel each book (because they haven't, really) but they parallel the tasks to get the 7 horcruxes? I hadn't thought of that before, just something I came up with reading your post.. But to get the locket one they had to drink the potion, & there was a potion task in the first one, right?
Don't reckon Bellatrix will kill Ron.. she killed Sirius I think?
Oh yeah, which reminds me, we'll be seeing more of that veil or whatever it was (still don't understand that part of the story, what is it, a random arch with a curtain in the middle of a stadium type thing?!?!?)
But yeah, I reckon Ron'll die.
Don't think Hermione will though.



A few of you seem to be saying the 6th was weak.. personally I thought the 5th was the worst.
Like... nothing happened in it until right at the end, which wasn't even particularly interesting.

i LOVE the Harry Potter movies, rather excited bout the new one comin out will defo be going to see it :D

The new Harry Potter book is coming out in 20 days

Hmm.
I'm confused.

I realised yesterday that it was 3 weeks, which makes today 20 days off it..
The date on the original post says 29/6, but I'm suuuure it's been going on for longer than that?

Just a thought.

Am i allowed to bump this? I need to bump it cos i neeeeed help!!

I'm going back to my old workplace for the opening of Harry Potter 7 at midnight and we're decorating the place out in the Potter theme.
I thought it would be a good idea to have an owl dotted around somewhere (we were going to have a real one but realised it would cost like £90!)
So....i've been searching around for a big plastic fake one. Any owl would do but i need one! On the off chance...does anyone know of any website that would sell a fake owl???

Thanks

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I would think most garden centres would sell fake owls as a lot of people use them to keep other birds away.

/me steps out of the twilight zone

anyone going to the premier tonight? =[

I felt Harry got way too...angry... after the fourth book. It seems he got too emotional / angry and cursed a lot in the fifth and sixth book. But the series is great, that's really my only complaint.

Which reminds me, I have to finish reading the last chapter of the Half Blood Prince. It's leftover from last year... I don't know why I never finished it (heh I might have been devistated over the events at the end of the book, thus never finishing it =? )

5th book was really weak. . ..

6th was good.

4th was best though (goblet of fire) but the film of it was absolute SCH????! they cut out over half the story. . .if you had never read the book and just watched the film you wouldnt have a clue what the ending meant ...

also. . . dont now how too do it so. . .



your theories about the challenges in the first book parralelling the horcrux challenges can't be right. . . because virtually no-one knows where all the horcruxes are or that voldermort has even made horcruxes!

There was this thing I heard on MuggleNet that Harry may have accidentally been a Horcrux the night the Voldermort tried to kill him. That's why Harry has some of Voldermort's powers... so... I dunno.. :sad: Maybe Harry will die in no. 7 :cry:

your theories about the challenges in the first book parralelling the horcrux challenges can't be right. . . because virtually no-one knows where all the horcruxes are or that voldermort has even made horcruxes!
/me blinks

... so?! it doesn't mean that JK can't write it.

lol Terra... /flirt MuggleNet.

Just got back from seeeing Harold Potterus! I thought it was quite excellent :)
After every film release its only tradition to have a loverly rant comparing the film to the book.
Most people probably havnt seen it yet so im gunna make an attempt at this spoiler malarkey, dont read this if you dont want to know which parts the film missed out and such.

Unlike the last two films, the order of the phoenix didnt miss out massive chunks of the plot, wooop! instead it rushed through including most of the details, 2 and a half hour film felt like 20 minutes. As can be expected there were alot of details they missed out here are some:

missed out about how voldyboy new loadsa stuff about the order through the malfoys being related to sirius and kreacher having to answer to them.
how harry went to check if sirius was at the headquarters but kreacher lied.
the whole chase in the ministry! they managed to get rid of all them rooms and just have the two.
how ron got attatched to all them brains, nevilles tongue grew, hermionie was unconsious for the whole thing and ginny broke her ankle or summit.they all seemed pretty unharmed at the end.
how harry went crazy with grief, maybe its just me but he didnt even seem that fussed about sirius's death in the film :/
the whole cho thing
chos friend who gave them away (SNEAK)
how trelawny was replaced by that centaur and how umbridge stupefied mcgonagal.
the trip to st.mungos, meeting nevilles parents/ lockhart
the rita skeeter thing, how harry published his story in the quibler, making people believe him.gawsh theres so much to write down, im sure i missed looooads cos it had been a while since i read that book. List other stuff that they missed out if you like id quite like to be reminded.

Thats my rant over anyhoo :D
I did really enjoy the film though, and there were some pretty funny bits :P

not helped by the drunk charrrvs that sat infront of us, having a mini argument nearing the end of the film :|
Adios x

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I would think most garden centres would sell fake owls as a lot of people use them to keep other birds away.

* Vik;92109 steps out of the twilight zone

Thank you Vik, you lifesaver you!

/me just came home from seeing HP 5 =]

I liked it a lot, considering that they had to squeeze so much in a short little time (oh get over it people... they can't have EVERYTHING from the book in the movie, then it would be like 6 hours long!)

I thought that the Dumbledore/Voldermort fight scene was kickin....

Now we just need the 7th book =]

Yay! I saw the movie tonight, and only another week before I get to read book 7. Yay!

The movie was pretty darn good, but the whole way home my hubby and I kept going over what they left out, etc.

I loved Professor Umbridge.. great job!

(oh get over it people... they can't have EVERYTHING from the book in the movie, then it would be like 6 hours long!)


As im sure by, 'people' you meant me, i can see how my post looked like i was moaning that they hadn't fit everything in, but i wasnt. Its just interesting to look at the book in comparison to the film, makes me think about it more and thus get more excited about the new book, if other people dont think the same way thats fine, that would by why i spoiled it and made it clear what was spoiled. :eek:

im taking my lil one to see it next week:D cant wait so excited:D

i watched it last night. . . the acting by the kids is finally coming up to scratch (and by that i mean emma watson who plays hermione) and the film was about 400% more accurate than the last one (probably because 400% less stuff happens in this book). it made for a better film though.

could be an equation there. . .

♥♥♥♥ter the book = better the film.

maybey.

If that's correct the next film will be a stonker!

As im sure by, 'people' you meant me, i can see how my post looked like i was moaning that they hadn't fit everything in, but i wasnt. Its just interesting to look at the book in comparison to the film, makes me think about it more and thus get more excited about the new book, if other people dont think the same way thats fine, that would by why i spoiled it and made it clear what was spoiled. :eek:

no no no! :eek: i didnt YOU! there are a buncha people who hated the movie because they left out a buncha stuff... i wasnt tryin to dis :sad:

If anyone in the UK is buying the new book make sure you get it from Asda.
They will be selling it for £5 :eek:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1276110,00.html?f=vg

not helped by the drunk charrrvs that sat infront of us, having a mini argument nearing the end of the film :|
Adios x

Our wasn't helped by the little boy behind us who threw up 5/6 times all over the floor.. he was sitting directly behind my mum.. we all put our legs straaaaaight up onto the seats. It was disgusting. :eek:
He finally decided to get up & leave though. But we missed almost the whole scene where Fred & George left, which is a shame. Plus the air-con was broken. Gaah.
It was still good though.


Can't wait for the book tomorrow!

Oh, Tesco are selling it for a fiver too, but only if you spend £50 there first. I guess if you can fit your weekly shop in around it, it works pretty well.

If anyone in the UK is buying the new book make sure you get it from Asda.
They will be selling it for £5 :eek:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1276110,00.html?f=vg

Tescos are also selling for £5 if you spend £10 in store

So has everyone read it yet? :biggrin:

So has everyone read it yet? :biggrin:

Not yet, but I have the book in front of me right now! So excited!

But I'm sure there were people that read it even before the release. I heard on the news about someone who got a copy and took pictures of each page before the release, then posted it online. Might of (and probably was) taken down though.

Finished.

Anyone else finished it, I am desperate to have a proper conversation about it with someone other than my sister xD

Let me know when you finished :razz:

Finished as well!

I got it in my mailbox at 8:00 am this morning. Just finished it at 11:30 pm. And that's with lots of interrruptions, playing with my daughter, going to the grocery store, taking a drive with my hubby, eating dinner, that kind of thing.

It was so gooooooood! So goooooood!

Talk to me anytime... anyone who is done.

finished.

all i can say is best book of the series by miles.

You think? I'm not so sure. I thought it was good, but not really the best...


Don't read if you haven't finished...

Took me a while to figure out who Victoire was. It's Fleur & Bill's son.

Harry is related to Voldemort. No-one in the book picked up on this, but me & my sister both noticed it. Harry is a descendent of the Peverells, & Gaunt (Voldemort grandfather?) is also a descendent of the Peverells. Does this mean Harry is also a descendent of Slytherin, and is that why he is able to speak parsletongue?

Sniff sniff, Dobby & Hedwig! :(

Took me a while to figure out who Victoire was. It's Fleur & Bill's son.

Harry is related to Voldemort. No-one in the book picked up on this, but me & my sister both noticed it. Harry is a descendent of the Peverells, & Gaunt (Voldemort grandfather?) is also a descendent of the Peverells. Does this mean Harry is also a descendent of Slytherin, and is that why he is able to speak parsletongue?



I never did figure out who Victoire was... but it makes sense!

I noticed the connection between Tom and Harry too. I don't know if Harry is a descendant of Slytherin, but Dumbledore says that Harry can speak parseltongue because Tom can... because of the horcrux in Harry

Such a great book... everyone should read the series, just to read the ending!

yup^^^.


best.by.miles.

Oh yeah, woops:Victoire is their daughter, not their son

A question:It was said that someone was going to start showing magical tendencies(?) towards the end of the book. Who was this?

errr. . .

!spoiler!
who was that then???? where was that mentioned. i cant remember that? harrys aunty petunia was a witch but she shunned her back on the life. . .

!spoiler!

No she wasn't...?

From mugglenet.com - on the 'confirmed information about Deathly Hallows' page
JKR has said "There is a character who does manage, in desperate circumstances, to do magic quite late in life, but that is very rare..."
And also
Something will be revealed about Petunia Dursley, although we already know that she is not a Squib. - What was that? Was it that she was jealous of Lily?



PS - not sure you did your spoiler tags properly - you shouldn't be able to read the text at all but it just appears to be white. It looks as though you changed it yourself?
To make the text invisible, highlight the text you want as a spoiler, 'Go Advanced' and press the Spoil button. (on my computer the image doesn't show up, it's just a box. It's next to the PHP one/it's the one on the far right.

Such a fabulous book!

Snape! Oh my. I had a gut feeling he would die and become the kind of tragic hero figure, but even thinking that it still shocked me. I was in floods of tears reading the chapter telling his story. And when he read Lily's letter and was crying, and then wanted to look into Harry's eyes because they were like hers. *Sobs*

Why didn't Voldy become a ghost?
I thought he feared death?


The next ones all from Mugglenet:
A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but that information is restricted for reasons we will find out about later
What reason was that?

There is more to the cats in the story (Crookshanks, Mrs. Figg's cats, Mrs. Norris, etc.) than meets the eye.
Is there?

/me is still waiting for the overseas order to arrive.

Thanks to everyone for keeping it in spoiler tags.

lol - you guys could be running riot in here and I'd never know - I am keeping my eyes half closed as I type this. I still haven't finished reading it! I keep being busy, doh!

im almost to page 300 itll probably be a few more days for me

can anyone actually BELIEVE that dumbledores sister was raped when she was 6 by 3 muggles. i couldn't. read it again. thats what happened. its a bloody kids book ya know?!! hopefully most people wont get that.

:eek:
I didn't get that!
Hold on..let me have a look. Whereabouts in the book is that part?




Are you sure?! :eek:


Edit: I can't quote you're spoilers - I don't think you're doing them properly. Please read end of page 2. Thanks :)

aah cheers! i had no ideo how to do it so i just made the text white for the time being!

trust me though. . .thats what their getting at in the book. nasty isnt it.

simple!

(Much better! Making it white is just about okay, but if someone quotes it, it's easily read)

Have just found that passage in the book. It does look pretty likely now that you mention it. On first read I'd thought the boys were six, but it only says she was. So maybe they were older. Yeah, you're probably right. You're also right in saying that it's a children's book really, but I spose it doesn't really matter here - a child will simply see it as an attack or a fight. I don't think anyone that young will be reading/understanding this book by this point - it's got so dark & complex. So I guess if a child came across that passage they'd just think she'd been beaten up or something. Adults/teenagers may not spot it, others may. It's open to interpretation, but I think you're probably right.

yeah I'll find the it and quote it tomorrow. . .

it comes up twice i think. also dumbledores dad was willing too go to kill and go too azkaban for it. . .it wasn't a straightforward attack.

how dark is that in a kid's book though! i can imagine a child reading it now. . or getting it read too them and not giving it a second thought and 10 years later coming back too it. . .

HOLY GOD
i JUST finished
:eek:

my favorite one by far

/me cries

Same, Terrapin... definitely my favourite out of the seven. My favourite chapter was 'The Battle of Hogwarts.' God, that was a great chapter...

Great book. Harry Potter haters: you don't know what you're missing out on. :P

Finished it last night.

She brings a lot of loose ends together well.. but this certainly isn't the best book in the series.
Rowling takes the easy way out in a lot of places (as she has often done in the older books) and introduces Deux ex machinas to get her characters out of trouble

When Harry is "Dead" and is talking to Dumbledore, there is a noisy creature in the background..

"He recoiled. He had spotted the thing that was making the noise. It had
the form of a small, naked child, curled on the ground, its skin raw and rough,
flayed-looking, and it lay shuddering under a seat where it had been left, unwanted, stuffed out of sight, struggling for breath."

What is that again?

What is that again?

Rowling running out of ideas and introducing Gollum :razz:

When Harry is "Dead" and is talking to Dumbledore, there is a noisy creature in the background..

"He recoiled. He had spotted the thing that was making the noise. It had
the form of a small, naked child, curled on the ground, its skin raw and rough,
flayed-looking, and it lay shuddering under a seat where it had been left, unwanted, stuffed out of sight, struggling for breath."

What is that again?


it's a part of voldermorts soul.

it's a part of voldermorts soul.


The part that was with Harry earlier?
but wasn't that part supposed to die when Voldythingy tried to kill Harry?

"“So the part of his soul that was in me . . . ”
Dumbledore nodded still more enthusiastically, urging Harry onward, a
broad smile of encouragement on his face.
“. . . has it gone?”
“Oh yes!” said Dumbledore. “Yes, he destroyed it. Your soul is whole, and
completely your own, Harry.”
“But then . . . ”
Harry glanced over his shoulder to where the small, maimed creature trembled
under the chair.
“What is that, Professor?”
“Something that is beyond either of our help,” said Dumbledore."
....


Also Griphook got cheated out of his sword yet again :p

PS:: the whole spoiler tags thing is making this thread a pain to read
maybe we should mark the whole thread as spoilt :p

The part that was with Harry earlier?
but wasn't that part supposed to die when Voldythingy tried to kill Harry?

"“So the part of his soul that was in me . . . ”
Dumbledore nodded still more enthusiastically, urging Harry onward, a
broad smile of encouragement on his face.
“. . . has it gone?”
“Oh yes!” said Dumbledore. “Yes, he destroyed it. Your soul is whole, and
completely your own, Harry.”
“But then . . . ”
Harry glanced over his shoulder to where the small, maimed creature trembled
under the chair.
“What is that, Professor?”
“Something that is beyond either of our help,” said Dumbledore."
....


Also Griphook got cheated out of his sword yet again :p

PS:: the whole spoiler tags thing is making this thread a pain to read
maybe we should mark the whole thread as spoilt :p

I don't think it was Voldemort's soul.. when I read it, it reminded me of in the fourth book, when Voldemort got his body back, and he was just a little baby bundle thingy. Idk what it was though. I think it's left to our imaginations, but I don't really see the point in it in the first place.

its definitley voldermorts soul. . .

"theres no help for it now".

If anyone is particularly interested, this (http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showforum=270) forum goes into much more detailed discussion about absolutely anything you could want to know about the book.

Be patient though - there's a ridiculous amount of lag at the moment due to every Potter fan in the country trying to log on.

I had it delivered on day of release... to the girlfriend's house cos I'm such a lovely bloke like that... Should get to read it soon though. :)

*no.Ob pms Ches harry potter spoilers

In case you are still wondering btw, the butler did it!

In case you are still wondering btw, the butler did it!

In the kitchen, with the candlestick... wait I have no idea what you were talking about...

But just posting to say that this was a GREAT book!