Posted with Fender's permission:

Just thought I'd pop a post here to explain there's been some imposterism (yes, I made that word up, lol) lately.

Just to let forum members know that my IP is dynamic, but nonetheless begins with 86. or 81. if it doesn't, it's not me. Also... I'm happy to arrange a password so you know it's me. :biggrin:

Fender's IP is 195.137.114.247, and it's static. If that's not the IP, that's not Fender, or not our Fender at any rate.

Just so you guys know who you're chatting to, or playing with, and there's no confusion.

Thanks to people who've let us know.
:biggrin:

I started a thread on this so that anyone else having any issues, I know Nerdy had recently, can add if need be.

My IP is somewhat dynamic, and I have been cloned once or twice so if you see me and IP doesn't say 201.208 at the start, then it's not me because i can only play from home, and all my home IPs so far start with those numbers.

This is a huge problem it seems. Perhaps another reason to ask the isketch gods to grant us registrations... pleeeeeeeeeease pretty please :twisted:

The easiest way to check it's me is to check for my avatar which I never change because there have always been other kisskiss's, kissy's etc. My fault for not choosing an original name. Some of them however, have been imposters and actually pretended to be me.

Only person I've never seen duplicated or seen anything similar to, is Bad_Manner$ so I guess there's something to be said for underscores in a name after all!

Some of us spent a very confusing evening in a user created room by Tigeress until we realised it wasn't OUR Tigeress. And I've lost count of the number of other Jewels and Peanut's I've invited.

The easiest way to check it's me is to check for my avatar which I never change because there have always been other kisskiss's, kissy's etc.

If someone wants to impersonate some one, they can quite easily copy your avatar and quote aswell,( I have seen this done recently ). With a few regular members I have a password, ( I won't tell you what piggie's one is ):embarrassed:
If you find a regualr/friend not seeming themselves, best to ask them on msn (if you have them ) if it is really them, or ask them a question on pm, which the real person would only know.

edit: if you see me on isketch, and I'm winning, chances are it isn't me, but an imposter.

edit edit: please bear in mind there is a big difference from someone just having the same username, or someone making out that they are you.

Up untill owery lucky,ive never seen another WildCherry.
Ive seen other usernames like cherrylips ect, but never wildcherry.
It must be a horrible username lol.:eek:

If someone wants to impersonate some one, they can quite easily copy your avatar and quote aswell,( I have seen this done recently ).
As have I. Best thing to do, as buffers has stated is to check IPs, but I know a lot of us might not be keeping logs of our friends' IPs, so instead I just approach them to see if it's really them before I say anything too personal, lol. And I know a lot of us know each other really well, and would know it's an imposter within 1.5 seconds. So no worries Buffs and Fender... they can't impersonate you, they can only take your name and attempt to, but fail miserably.

edit edit: please bear in mind there is a big difference from someone just having the same username, or someone making out that they are you.

That's actually a very important point, as I've seen some users get angry when someone else logs onto their name not realising that a regular user uses a name like that (because it's a common name). I actually feel for these people as sometimes they get shouted at real bad by regular players -- go easy on them! Best thing to do is kindly explain to them that there is a regular player that uses that name. I've seen some people listen and change their name without a demand for them to do so (as no one 'owns' it). I chose this name to separate those who would randomly log on with a name to those who would intentionally use it. I know no other dork would log on with a name like this not realising someone uses it already :P

As far as Fender... I'm aware that he has both an intentional imposter using his name, and an imposter who actually just randomly chose that name. Plus.. Fender's drawings give him away in a room :P My imposter was drawing better than me, so they all knew it wasn't me.. rofl! Can you believe that? The cheek of it.. :P

/me still prefers his setup for IP identification

My IP is somewhat dynamic too but thanks to some nifty router config and DynDNS.com i managed to set up what you see in my signature showing my IP.

So you can always come on here to check my IP, just find a post by me and check my signature. :)

* Jobe;77644 still prefers his setup for IP identification

My IP is somewhat dynamic too but thanks to some nifty router config and DynDNS.com i managed to set up what you see in my signature showing my IP.

So you can always come on here to check my IP, just find a post by me and check my signature. :)
Sorry to be so idiotic jobe, but when it says on here your IP then is that really MY ip or is it a windup.
Iknow im going to get ribbed for this question bring it on lol

It really is your IP. You can check if you want by going into isketch and getting your ip from there. No wind ups :biggrin:

I remember pmming a kisskiss ages ago.....asking her questions and stuff. When she didn't reply i got a bit angry and started shouting at her because she wasn't replying.......:eek:

Then realised it wasn't MY kisskiss :biggrin: :razz:

With a few regular members I have a password, ( I won't tell you what piggie's one is ):embarrassed:

I think our code word works fabulously!! Gives us a chuckle and we know for certain that it's us! I do believe that a few other regulars saw you using the code word the other day so not so sure how secret it is now!!

I logged on the other day as another regular; not to impersonate them but to show just how easy it is to capture a screenprint (or "screenie") which has private messaging between two players. Apparently, that other regular thought it most flattering that I would imitate them; to that person I'd say, be far from flattered but, as they're not a member of the forum and I haven't named them, then they'll never know what I've said!! Anyway, I'm sure most of you would recognise me or an imposter of me .... I'm the gobby cow that never shuts up and can lower the tone of a room with one simple topic! In the words of Dick and Dom ..... BOGEYS!

Sorry to be so idiotic jobe, but when it says on here your IP then is that really MY ip or is it a windup.
Iknow im going to get ribbed for this question bring it on lol

No need to be sorry. :smile:

I put it there to help users when they need their IP.

I can explain basically how it works as well if you want?

Yes please :D

Aarghh! Is there anyway of telling if someone's used your username?

No unless someone else tells you, or if your username is being used when you try to log on, then you should see a message telling you that, that name is in use.

Weird thing is Rusty we have isketch theme parties, the last one was to do with cars, and to confuse players I changed my timezone and sex, and yes I went as rusty ( this was a few weeks ago Before I knew of you )
click link below to see:razz:


http://www.isketchforum.net/showpost.php?p=75225&postcount=206

lol, 1 careful owner, 20 no so careful.

That's how I feel today!!!!

I have only had my name, used by an imposter 2x, either they are daft as a brush, or just cant be arsed making up their own name. On one occassion did they just not take my name, but my whole profile. I did kindly ask her to log on as someone else as its my regular name, and everyone knows me by it. She started to get a bit argy bargy about it, then started giving other ppl in the room a tad of abuse.. In the end after so much abuse, the boots were on and she was out ( i did ask her nicely on several occasions )

Cunny_Funt

many people use the name 'gracie' ... there's a UK one that keeps calling me a f***ing "dyk" , and there was this cyberer who apparently was very good since i'd log on and get about four people going "cyber me?"

and there was a spanish one. i was using the google translator frantically, trying to give her the message that i was using it and would like it back. ah, what a headache that was.

my IP does change from time to time, however, the first two numbers seem to stay the same. basically, if it's my time zone and the location says Canada, it's me.

Why is player registration takeing so long to setup.
Im not moaning but i would love to see it sooner rather than later.
Does anyone know when its likely to be done:?:

I too recently had this problem. Tried to log on, and as it does... 'Username is already in use'. To my horror, I was looking at myself in the Bristol Mums Only room! I did go in the room, and stated that she was using the name that I've been using for a while now. She got quite shirty, saying she had used the name for FIVE YEARS!! I gave up in the end, left the room and just changed my name. I think she has used the name since, but it's been when I haven't been online.

Seems like lots of people are having the same problem, and now I DO check IPs as someone logs on. I used to just check profiles, but as some of us know, one imposter steals your profile and icon too... crafty bugger! IP check is the way forward it seems. Registrations would be a fabulous idea, and if us regular players get the nod first, then we have a good chance of securing the usernames we have become so fond of!

There is a Spanish lad who logs in as Vik. I guess that's his name too - when he's logged in, I just add a fullstop to the end of my name. I have never confronted him about it, I think he has as much right as I do to the name. If he gets 'Vik' first I wont mind too much, I'll just chose another name, or have the fullstop on the end permantely. So long as most of my friends know about it, no problemo. I do hope they hurry up about registrations though, the biggest problem for me is sometimes being able to log on as Vik and sometimes not. I'll be nice to be able to log in without any problems.

Couldn't get on isketch, yeap another jewels is on, so I am jewels1 for the time being.


edit: just dawned on me, there could already be a jewels1, and she may well be posting on her forum, saying heck some player has taken my name.

The jewels I used to play with was a male Doctor from the channel islands so yes names do seem to circulate a bit

/me leaves jokes with the words 'playing' and 'doctor' and 'BB' alone..... :razz:

I remember pmming a kisskiss ages ago.....asking her questions and stuff. When she didn't reply i got a bit angry and started shouting at her because she wasn't replying.......:eek:

Then realised it wasn't MY kisskiss :biggrin: :razz:

Course it was me, who else would ignore you?

/me sits and waits online in case registrations happen overnight.

I will definitely have to get in quick to register Bad_MaNneR$ because it's just such a popular choice of name:twisted:

um yeah, i had an imposter last night >< so i choose another name and go into the room the person is in. he/she is in a stupid 11-18 chat room.. i dont even go in these rooms!! and the person has the EXACT SAME profile!! so maybe their were stalking my name and found the icon.. they stole the quote.. so pretty much it was me.. but NOT me... i was sooooooo ticked.. i wish that i had gotten their number... grr... i dont know how it happened =[
anyone have any idea?? o_O

so maybe their were stalking my name and found the icon.. i dont know how it happened .. anyone have any idea??Asking how they took your icon? User icons are cached on your computer whenever you view them - the player who is using yours may have viewed your profile, pulled your icon out of their Temp directory, and uploaded it to their own site. Sounds like a dedicated impersonator!

Unless the avatar is a motion image, it's so easy to copy someone's avatar,

I just poped on isketch and tried it, Within 4 clicks I have it ready on a site to upload, I won't say how I did it, as we don't want every Tom Dick and Harrry doing it.




edit: oh sense/net how comes you haven't got your custom rank yet ?

Asking how they took your icon? User icons are cached on your computer whenever you view them - the player who is using yours may have viewed your profile, pulled your icon out of their Temp directory, and uploaded it to their own site. Sounds like a dedicated impersonator!

Or they could just look at your profile and use print screen to steal the pic.

For static images that would be enough!

sense/net how comes you haven't got your custom rank yet ?I'm not really one for customization, certainly a nice gesture

Imagine if anybody tried to impersonate me! They'd have their work cut out. They'd have to be rude, pedantic, stroppy, mean, vile, nasty but above all they'd have to be very good at spelling and grammar!!

Imagine if anybody tried to impersonate me! They'd have their work cut out. They'd have to be rude, pedantic, stroppy, mean, vile, nasty but above all they'd have to be very good at spelling and grammar!!
Oh dont trip on a trotter gammon chops lol.:razz:

Imagine if anybody tried to impersonate me! They'd have their work cut out. They'd have to be rude, pedantic, stroppy, mean, vile, nasty but above all they'd have to be very good at spelling and grammar!!

God forbid the overuse of COMMA. That surely would be a sign that it isn't our dearest Piggie!

rude pedantic stroppy mean vile spelling grammar

argh big words too! i would never do it.

Imagine if anybody tried to impersonate me! They'd have their work cut out. They'd have to be rude, pedantic, stroppy, mean, vile, nasty but above all they'd have to be very good at spelling and grammar!!

/me tries to impersonate Piggie
"Yo, sup nerdypants! wat u been up 2 latelee. Ya lyk my knew skurt? Ur a poopoohead nerdy! I h8 u!"

You know I do it so well, Piggie. :razz:
10/10 for effort?

Imagine if anybody tried to impersonate me! They'd have their work cut out. They'd have to be rude, pedantic, stroppy, mean, vile, nasty but above all they'd have to be very good at spelling and grammar!!

Oh dont trip on a trotter gammon chops lol.:razz:

God forbid the overuse of COMMA. That surely would be a sign that it isn't our dearest Piggie!

argh big words too! i would never do it.

* MsNerdinator;81579 tries to impersonate Piggie
"Yo, sup nerdypants! wat u been up 2 latelee. Ya lyk my knew skurt? Ur a poopoohead nerdy! I h8 u!"

You know I do it so well, Piggie. :razz:
10/10 for effort?

/me farts

I did it!!!! :razz:

/me opens a window

Aarghh! Is there anyway of telling if someone's used your username?

Someone was on yesterday as "rusty" (not capital R)

Aarghh! Is there anyway of telling if someone's used your username?

System pops up a message saying that the username is already in use, new feature. But it takes a little while, so when you log in wait a minute and it'll popup saying you have to choose a different username.

Coming to think of it, apart from once (people tell me I was impersonated, not my name just 'used'), I've been lucky but I don't know what I'd do if someone pinched my name. I know I had it first :twisted:

well there's plenty of AJs on isk, but you know it's me if I try to it on you in a not so sexy manner. The other AJs are ok and don't asl? you if they want to be annoying :razz:

there's deffo never been another clungeface. . . .

What's the story behind this peron "2" that is logging on to isketch now?

I'm sticking with 2.0, do not confuse 2 with 2.0. I'm the official lousy gpa.

Oh goody.. There's a Nay on right now

eek yours even got his own room! those are the worst!! (like i'd know)

I know! And he had the same profile! Although that may have been a glitch because the game recognised my name (doubt it). He told me he hadn't set up a profile up (ooh right!)

And of course he had been using the name for a year already.
And of course he used that nickname elsewhere too!
Hell, he even had people call him that in real life! What a coincidence! We must be twins!

Well, we just talked about it a bit, and he said he wasn't a regular, and I said I hoped we wouldn't log on at the same time again.

Oh, my favourite part is when he said: Well, your name is Nay2 now, so it must be that I had the name first.

'Cos that's the way it works, right :D!

easy to not have your name taken if you don't leave iSketch :D

Im like Dean and usually leave my computer on and stay in studio because my names so popular ..Ive had a bad few weeks with imposters and I now know why ive been getting pmed asking if Im an Admin I followed one of my twit name stealers around only to witness her vote violating.drawing unrelated draws..and in open chat telling everyone shes an admin:sad:
Even worse thing is she lives near me (timezone) so unless you look for my icon or have my IP hard to tell !!:rolleyes:

/Flirt registrations soon plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Whomever assumed my name before I quit playing on iSketch absolutely *ruined* my stats {pout}

Your stats aren't anything to do with your username.

Your stats aren't anything to do with your username.
Quiet right hinty, i can log in as lip up fatty and still have my stats lol:razz:

Your stats are stored in files locally on your computer along with settings such as age, gender, quote, profile pic URL, BG colour,last used name, etc.....

They are pretty much independant of your name but are dependant on which computer you use unstead.

i've just acquired another imposter. she uses a capital G, though. pretty discernable.

-oh, and Jobe. the part of your signature that has the reputation thingie.. does it automatically change the amount of points you need, or are you doing it by yourself?

I used to have imposters quite a bit when I was on a lot, even one who managed to fool some friends into /op'ing him/her followed by kicking them out.

/me votes again for registrations....
I have just tried to log on to isk to find the name Saffron is in use.
So I log in with a . at the end of my name......only to find that the person using the name Saffron is actually someone I know, and who knows me........:eek:
/me is feeling very weird about that......

Oh, I have an imposter on iSketch. It's not the same one that's logging in as everyone else. :rolleyes:
Don't believe a word of what the fake AJ says, it's not true at all! People who know me will know it's a load of rubbish anyway.
If you see Nerdy and I in a normal room, then it is not me as we have the same ip and cannot play in the same rooms. However, Nerdy and I can play in user created rooms together so it is worth checking the ip to make sure it's really me.
I have a static ip, starts with 82, is super short and never changes!

Well you guys are lucky - at least you don't get a horrible addition to your username .. people who don't like me log on as Nuka.%%$^$&%^$ ... yes I think checking profiles and ips would help us - so I guess im going to start making a list of my buddies' ip addys, just so I know when its them or not them. I think when it comes down to it, when a person really starts talking you know if its them or not - I mean if one doesnt usually swear or use racist jokes - it would be easy in some cases to pick up on the fraud. I too, call for registered usernames, it would be so much easier, and would eliminate some of the booted ppl changing ids so they wont be recognised. (As most of the time we dont have time to take ip or dont think about doing it until too late).

Well, surprise surprise everyone thats all I have to say. I think I will save my energies for the rude and the cheats in the rooms. You guys know where to find me! xxx

What are the usual practices around the world as far as assigned IP addresses go? In Aussie-land most ISPs don't give you a static IP unless you specifically pay extra for the privilege, so it's not always possible to tell who's who from their address because it changes regularly.

Is it typically the same in say the UK and the US, or are static IPs something you get more commonly there?

I can only comment on what I notice more than actual facts but I would say that over the years I've been at isketch there seem to be less and less static IPs and more variable.

my IP is awesome

Well, we just talked about it a bit, and he said he wasn't a regular, and I said I hoped we wouldn't log on at the same time again.

Oh, my favourite part is when he said: Well, your name is Nay2 now, so it must be that I had the name first.

'Cos that's the way it works, right :D!

You talk to your impostors? So do I. They always leave pretty quickly though. Perhaps I kill them with niceness (God knows that takes some effort!).

My longest ever impostor was a Storm in the Cyber room. After numerous attempts to talk to them and failing, and they'd been on my name for about an hour, I lost my patience: I sent them one last PM -
"ffs, how long does it take to s*** someone!" - 5 minutes later they were gone.

:twisted:

I hope I never have an imposter... but then again, I haven't been on in quite awhile. So if anyone has seen me on iSketch recently it hasn't been me!

Like others have said, I think registry is needed.

This might hijack the thread (kind of); but some guy said the following so don't shoot me!

An imposter is one who levies an impost, a tax, especially a customs duty.
An impostor is one who takes on the identity of another to deceive.
The words have the same derivation: Latin imponere, (to place on, to impose) but they have different meanings.

"Impostor" is by far the more common word. They're also pronounced differently.
The second syllable of "imposter" rhymes with POST;
the second syllable of "impostor" rhymes with LOST.

I'll be in the Splitting Hairs room; anyone game?

Here's some FYI about myself... nobody probably cares, but it's got nothing to do with my IP. (I'm usually on the same computer. Not always.)

There have been plenty of people log in with "sketches," with a lowercase or capital S, but none as far as my knowledge try to be me, the most common "sketches" user.

Alllsoo... if the username isn't "sketches", and instead it's "sketcher" or "Sketchy" or something similar, it's NOT ME.

My profile is ALWAYS THE SAME. Same icon, same gender (genderless), same everything. Always. Never-changing. I always type in lowercase letters unless I'm mocking someone who thinks they're being clever by typing with proper grammar and spelling and stuff (but that only lasts 10 minutes at the most). My drawing style's usually the same. When you see it, you'll know it's me.

That's all! Thanks.
- sketches

I always type in lowercase letters unless I'm mocking someone who thinks they're being clever by typing with proper grammar and spelling and stuff (but that only lasts 10 minutes at the most).

/me wonders what sketches has against good English :rolleyes:

This is gonna hijack the thread further.

In short, iSketch is a chat room. Generally, people type in lowercase letters and abbreviations to communicate faster in chat rooms, and iSketch is no different. Just about anyone who acts like they're smarter/more clever/better than those who type in lowercase with "bad grammar/spelling," and types properly just to attempt to prove that point in chat rooms... they're just annoying. I think it's a personal pet peeve. :P

Anywho, impostors!!!

This is gonna hijack the thread further.

In short, iSketch is a chat room. Generally, people type in lowercase letters and abbreviations to communicate faster in chat rooms, and iSketch is no different. Just about anyone who acts like they're smarter/more clever/better than those who type in lowercase with "bad grammar/spelling," and types properly just to attempt to prove that point in chat rooms... they're just annoying. I think it's a personal pet peeve. :P

Anywho, impostors!!!

Isketch is, in fact, an international game site with chat functions for the social aspect we all love so much. A big part of that is the communication between players of wide and varied nationalities. Players who's first language is often not English and therefore have huge problems understanding the sometimes highly confusing txtspeak being used. I believe it's good manners to all those players to type clearly. Also when I was at school it was the way I was taught and I expect the same can be said for many others.:smile:

There's some very simple, obvious facts here.

Despite the fact that iSketch is a mere game, it's become as much of a community as any other on the intarwebs.

There are NO other communities on the intarwebs that aren't driven by a registered username and password system. iSketch has always been plagued by morons, stalkers, all-round psychos and bored sociopathic kids masquerading as other users. And it is bull♥♥♥♥. Plain and simple.

Setting up a username/password database is just about the simplest web application there is - it really is 101 web app dev.

Rob - for goodness sake, get on with it and make it happen. It'll cut out so much of the nonsense. You're looking for ways to make iSketch a commercial proposition, so act like it is one. It's not just way overdue, it's STUPIDLY overdue.

With all the current political and media focus on sorting out internet creeps, Rob'll be a madman not to get a username/password system in place as soon as he can.

- Squang

PS Naysayers - hold your tongues. Yes, nothing is 100% secure, but that includes your credit cards that you shop with online. It would certainly be a healthier community with such security in place.

I forgot something. I always greet everyone who walks in the room, no matter who they are or when they've arrived. :)

Someone used to always log on as me and bother people who they knew I was friends with, I actually talked to them once and they said it was because they found it "Funny how everyone gets all annoyed, it's just a game". So I told everyone to just ingore them when they did it so they weren't getting any entertainment out of it, and they stopped within a few days :)

/me sneaks in...
This is gonna hijack the thread further.

In short, iSketch is a chat room. Generally, people type in lowercase letters and abbreviations to communicate faster in chat rooms, and iSketch is no different. Just about anyone who acts like they're smarter/more clever/better than those who type in lowercase with "bad grammar/spelling," and types properly just to attempt to prove that point in chat rooms... they're just annoying. I think it's a personal pet peeve. :P

Anywho, impostors!!!

I type in lower-case as well, but you know, it's not because I think I'm far more chilled out than people who type in perfect English (:rolleyes:). I only type in lower case because I think it makes the letters look more even and balanced. I don't use txtspk often except with long words, but I guess 'sth' (something) is just as much txtspk as 'u' (you)... :(

Isketch is, in fact, an international game site with chat functions for the social aspect we all love so much. A big part of that is the communication between players of wide and varied nationalities. Players who's first language is often not English and therefore have huge problems understanding the sometimes highly confusing txtspeak being used.

Ahaha...

/me is not a native speaker of English and that sentence was confusing...until I figured out that there shouldn't be an 'and' there (and I do believe it's 'whose', but I couldn't tell ya) :razz:

/me sneaks out

/me stands on a chair and applauds the Squangs!!!!

I know this simple registration rule would have saved a LOT of hassle... for a lot of people.

Admins wouldn't have to run from room to room looking for trouble makers... accounts registered to their IPs would make them simple to find.

Why this simple addition has not been put in place to stop harassment/cyberstalking/racism/hacking/ and general abuse of the site astounds me.

I'd think it was a positive, not a negative.

Also.. a limit of 2 accounts per IP might help prevent the vicious habit I suspect might appear of troublemakers claiming the long-standing name of another player before they can use it.

My name doesn't mean that much to me... I do not live my life online... I am the person who goes to work, and lives, and loves, before I am anything else. I'd happily play under 'lardarse' (which quite suits me :razz: if it means players are protected by registration.

* storm;96577 sneaks in...


I type in lower-case as well, but you know, it's not because I think I'm far more chilled out than people who type in perfect English (:rolleyes:). I only type in lower case because I think it makes the letters look more even and balanced. I don't use txtspk often except with long words, but I guess 'sth' (something) is just as much txtspk as 'u' (you)... :(



Ahaha...

* storm;96577 is not a native speaker of English and that sentence was confusing...until I figured out that there shouldn't be an 'and' there (and I do believe it's 'whose', but I couldn't tell ya) :razz:

* storm;96577 sneaks out

/me claims tiredness as an excuse :razz:

woah Squang, that's a tad harsh, don't you think? I for one want registration as well, but you can't just make rash statements like "STUPIDLY overdue" and calling the creator a "madman" for not doing something you'd like (and other people would like as well, I know). If you are that enraged, you can always make your own pictionary-esque game and make it however you want, with passwords and all. But do be aware that producing and maintaining a game for years is time and money. And even if adding passwords is as easy as you say it is, it'd be more time and money.

But quite frankly, it all comes down to the creator's decision. Perhaps it's just Rob's personal preference as to keep iSketch the way it is.

...accounts registered to their IPs would make them simple to find.
I don't think you could ever have the user account system tied to IP addresses. Too many people just don't have permanent static IPs, and those that do, they're attached to one physical location.

Aye Squang, you were a wee bit harsh there. Remember, it's not that Rob is intentionally delaying the registrations. There needs to be enough room on the server for registration and passwords stuff or something. I dunno, something to do with clever people and computers, way outta my league!

I just want to state that I don't mind other AJs logging on, I'll quite happily come on as 'dinky', the 47 year old polish man, who everyone loves so much :rolleyes: or I'll log on as something else.

My only problem is that a certain person is logging on as AJ and "admitting" to things that I've been wrongfully accused of. That's not fair and it's just a pain in the neck! Anyone who believes fakey AJ quite frankly needs their head checked.

Rob - for goodness sake, get on with it and make it happen. It'll cut out so much of the nonsense. You're looking for ways to make iSketch a commercial proposition, so act like it is one. It's not just way overdue, it's STUPIDLY overdue.

Not sure why that statement is directed at Rob, he's not a member of the forum. Also, I thought that message was simply rude. A lot of us do not appreciate Rob's free time that he's spent on iSketch. We don't. How often do we complain about the game in some form, and how often do we email feedback with negative comments. We're mostly full of so much criticism! I wonder if Rob gets any "thank you for iSketch, it's a wonderful game" type emails. We, as regular players, should be appreciative despite the registrations not being available just yet.

It's given us so much. Some of us use it to get away from personal things. Some of us have best friends on here, or even just casual friends. Some of us also have spouses that were found on iSketch. Calling Rob a madman is simply harsh and uncalled for, because he's given us all so much, and it's about time we said thank you for it and show a bit of respect towards him.

I don't know Rob's situation, but I can imagine A LOT of work goes into iSketch, and it's simply not something easy. The poor guy has got the site running for free for us, and is paying for it out of his own pocket. By that alone, I assume he'll have a regular job on top of iSketch. It's not something easy that we can all do, but us being ungrateful is an easy task, it seems. Also, sites like myspace, etc don't have one general manager creating it all by himself/herself. This is probably what Rob is doing.

I know we're all frustrated about lack of registrations, but right now, the best thing to do is to just get used to not having regisrations and not have expectations. The game is still a wonderful game. And a lot problems on the game can also be dealt with by our own approach to a situation. Rob will do the Registrations when he wants to, and when he can. The rest of us just need to carry on as normal.. or leave. As I know a few have, already. That's their choice. I would never do that though.. the positives greatly outnumber the negatives - for me. And we're all here by choice.

Although you're absolutely right Nerdy, registrations are a very basic thing to set up. I mean, I wouldn't know how to do it in flash, but it can't be very technical for someone who's able to create a game like this. Plus, they already exist for admins.

And like AJ, I don't mind signing on under a different name. It's just that the only times I have to do so it's because somebody is pretending to be me...

Although you're absolutely right Nerdy, registrations are a very basic thing to set up. I mean, I wouldn't know how to do it in flash, but it can't be very technical for someone who's able to create a game like this. Plus, they already exist for admins.

I understand what you mean, Rob is more than capable of creating them, as he's a smart guy that's created such a complicated game with very clever details. That's why I think it's just best that we sit back and carry on as normal without them. He's obviously got his reasons for not doing it just yet :) Being capable and acting upon something are two different things.

My apologies to Squang. I misread that. However, implying that Rob *would* be a madman if registrations are not put in place soon, is still unfair, in my opinion. I assume he has good reasons for delaying it. *sits back and waits*

I just realised the title to this thread, lol.

/me sneaks out quietly after helping to take this off topic.

The very last thing Mr. Wahlstedt needs is apologists. He needs critics. Semantic quibbles don't solve the issue of a long overdue, simple-to-implement level of security that protects everyone who comes to play the game from those that maliciously play the players.

- Squang

iSketch Instructions, under help (http://www.isketch.net/instructions/help.shtml) state that:

"While admins recognize most regular players, there is no definite way of knowing that your name has been used without your consent"

Surely having registrations in place would eliminate this? And if you have a look through the Version History (http://www.isketch.net/instructions/version.shtml) it's difficult to understand why things like "New setting to lock the palettes, preventing them to be moved by accident" and "New emotes: /BYE & /CLAP" have been added to new versions waaaaay before registrations :S

The very last thing Mr. Wahlstedt needs is apologists. He needs critics. Semantic quibbles don't solve the issue of a long overdue, simple-to-implement level of security that protects everyone who comes to play the game from those that maliciously play the players.Registrations have already been available, and now they are not. Apparently conscious decision, not laziness or inability on Rob's part. Remember that the anonymity of unregistered names also has its advantages.

Registrations have already been available, and now they are not. Apparently conscious decision, not laziness or inability on Rob's part. Remember that the anonymity of unregistered names also has its advantages.

Registrations have not been made available to all players in the past. There are a very small number of players that Rob registered in the days when we used ops in public rooms but other than admin names which need to be registered for security that is it.

The very last thing Mr. Wahlstedt needs is apologists. He needs critics. Semantic quibbles don't solve the issue of a long overdue, simple-to-implement level of security that protects everyone who comes to play the game from those that maliciously play the players.

- Squang

Do you seriously think that if it were simple to implement Rob would not have already done it ???? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Registrations have already been available, and now they are not. Apparently conscious decision, not laziness or inability on Rob's part. Remember that the anonymity of unregistered names also has its advantages.

Again, might just be Rob's personal preference. You're points on registration are valid Squangs, but they do sound a little unappreciative. The following page shows the perspective of a game creator of a very successful game site (Street Fighter Online), since he was tired of people complaining too much (and a site with a lot of young boys, there's loads of complaining...)

http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=6;t=10336

EDIT: well looks like BB cleared up the password thing! I didn't know too much about it's history, as I haven't been here for awhile. But still, I don't think it's Rob being lazy.

* Buffers;96580 stands on a chair and applauds the Squangs!!!!

I know this simple registration rule would have saved a LOT of hassle... for a lot of people.

Admins wouldn't have to run from room to room looking for trouble makers... accounts registered to their IPs would make them simple to find.

Why this simple addition has not been put in place to stop harassment/cyberstalking/racism/hacking/ and general abuse of the site astounds me.

I'd think it was a positive, not a negative.

Also.. a limit of 2 accounts per IP might help prevent the vicious habit I suspect might appear of troublemakers claiming the long-standing name of another player before they can use it.

My name doesn't mean that much to me... I do not live my life online... I am the person who goes to work, and lives, and loves, before I am anything else. I'd happily play under 'lardarse' (which quite suits me :razz: if it means players are protected by registration.
Errr excuse me miss, but i wanted to be lardarse, so bog off.:razz:.Cherry stays away from the debate on registrations my thoughts are already aired by squang.

We're just going round in circles, really. I don't see there being any point in sitting around and pin pointing all the things that he's added in before registrations - we could be here forever. We don't know what it's like creating a game like iSketch and managing it. Maybe /bye, /clap, /insult were far easier for him to implement, and the registrations weren't? Who know? We don't.


Maybe Rob doesnt find it particulary simple to do, but Peter hasnt found it difficult to do on the forum and all other forum creators, web designers etc havent found it difficult to do

Better that we hold off judgements and criticisms about what is easier to do and what isn't. I know registrations are generally easy to code. I can do it manually and automatically myself. But mass implementing it into a game is something completely different, and possibly some complicated implications on it. And as far as forums and other websites go, a lot of them use automatic easy-to-make registrations (I've read into this stuff, and have done it a few times as a coder).

Again, forums are different to a game. I don't mean to sound harsh, my point is just that none of us know Rob's reason for not creating mass registrations for all, but we're sitting around criticising it. I don't think we really should if we don't know what's happening in the background of iSketch. Voicing our views about wanting registrations is one thing, but to pin point other things, is another. I want registrations too. I'm all for it.

Remember that the anonymity of unregistered names also has its advantages.
I'm interested to hear what you feel the advantages are.

As far as I'm aware, and have experienced, the negatives far outweigh the possible positives. As alot of people have already said, there is a huge problem with people creating malice while taking advantage of the unregistered anonymity.

As alot of people have already said, there is a huge problem with people creating malice while taking advantage of the unregistered anonymity.

I would like to try and get things a little into perspective here. From what I see and hear of as an admin I can say that the problems with imposters discussed in this thread are actually very few and far between compared to the many other issues we deal with. I'm not trying to say that they are not very upsetting for those targetted just that it doesn't actually happen very often across the game. If a bad player wants to single you out for whatever reason they will sadly do so whether your name is registered or not :sad:

I would like to try and get things a little into perspective here. From what I see and hear of as an admin I can say that the problems with imposters discussed in this thread are actually very few and far between compared to the many other issues we deal with. I'm not trying to say that they are not very upsetting for those targetted just that it doesn't actually happen very often across the game. If a bad player wants to single you out for whatever reason they will sadly do so whether your name is registered or not :sad:
I can see where you're coming from B. Maybe 'a huge' was the wrong phrase to use. I meant it in the context of the amount of upset it causes. I must admit, I've only heard people doing it to get back at a certain group of people and I've seen how upset that group is by it. It's so unfair that they seem to get away with it.

I would like to hope that anyone who comes across a Deadlock would be able to discern whether it is me or not. I've been invited to rooms as soon as I logged in by people I don't know who then PM me asking why I'm ignoring them ... Apparently there is another DL who has had this nickname "for like 25 years dude" ... Hmmm.

I must admit, I've only heard people doing it to get back at a certain group of people and I've seen how upset that group is by it. It's so unfair that they seem to get away with it.

All true.

Like I said before, I am all for player registrations.

On the flip side... why do people assume that all these troubles will disappear once we have registrations?

I remember people impersonating my mother KayOhio by simply logging in as Kayohlo and then acting like her with her profile. It looks awfully similar. Or the one harrassing Farley_Gnu as FarleyGnu.

Then, as SamIamPa can attest to... when I logged in as Sam_I_am people thought I was her-- SamIam. People don't look at all the weird gadgety things in names. If they know your quirks and can copy your profile info, well... they can do that whether your name is registered or not.

What is going to stop someone from registering a hundred names similar to yours to keep harrassing you? I don't know the answers... just points to ponder.

I ve just been in isketch for the last 2 hours, and ive been hounded by some idiot player.
He /she insisted upon baiting me untill i simply put them on ignore.
But they soon realised they was on ignore, so came back to the room after leaving as CherryWild, it was kicked out for porn draws, then came back as WilCher, ffs.
So yes i do see what your getting at sam.:eek:

What is going to stop someone from registering a hundred names similar to yours to keep harrassing you? I don't know the answers... just points to ponder.

Thankfully iSketch is able to IP ban players, so if they do enough harrassment and get caught, they won't be allowed back! And sorry that stalking happened to you WildCherry. But you can always try to apply as an admin; I'm sure your countless hours on iSketch and known pressence would qualify you. Then you can help stop annoyances and keep the rooms trouble-free.

I'm interested to hear what you feel the advantages are.

As far as I'm aware, and have experienced, the negatives far outweigh the possible positives. As alot of people have already said, there is a huge problem with people creating malice while taking advantage of the unregistered anonymity.

Some advantages:

I've never been to any of the forum parties on iSketch but I expect less people would bother if they had to register a new account each time (assuming there was no "guest" option).

When people become ghosts, however that happens, how will you get back on as Username2 etc when you have a registered username?

There are lots of people who also just like to use a different name every now and then, there's many reasons why that may be.

Good point NoHints, I didn't actually think of any of those advantages.

Regarding my imposter/wannabe the ip shows that it is coming from the US.
Yes, the imposter is still hanging around and says "I am the real AJ" in rooms with people who know me. I can't emphasise this enough, but for those of you who do know me, know that I don't talk dirt/filth about myself or regular players.
For those who believe this imposter over me, I'm not a tart, tyvm! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Good point NoHints, I didn't actually think of any of those advantages.

Regarding my imposter/wannabe the ip shows that it is coming from the US.
Yes, the imposter is still hanging around and says "I am the real AJ" in rooms with people who know me. I can't emphasise this enough, but for those of you who do know me, know that I don't talk dirt/filth about myself or regular players.
For those who believe this imposter over me, I'm not a tart, tyvm! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You could start going by *AJ*, as you do on here?

You could start going by *AJ*, as you do on here?
I've thought about that and Nerdy has told me to change my name too. I'm ok with that, really I am. However, this is a regular player and a personal issue that they have against me, so it's different to the random stalkers/impersonators.
If I do change my name, they will do the exact same thing, under that name, lame, I know :rolleyes:

I'm only *AJ* on the forum because when I registered my username required a minumum of 3 characters and AJ* or *AJ looked 'unbalanced' to me so I chose *AJ* :P

(de-lurks)

First, why all the backlash against Rob? He runs this site out of his own pocket and because he feels like it, so I think we should be grateful for that rather than berate him because he isn't doing what YOU want. (royal you, I'm saying no names) I haven't played long enough to know about registrations in the past but I know sense/net is right about it being a conscious decision. If he can make a game like iSketch and have registrations for admins, he can do it for everyone else if he wants to.

Registrations help people find you, so they know for sure it's you. It helps EVERYONE. Your friends, strangers, stalkers and troublemakers... anyone can find you and track you when you're using a registered name. Who wants that? The only thing it will prevent is impostors pretending to be you.

This is why I think compulsory registrations are a bad idea. For the people who believe they would be happier knowing nobody but them can use their name, then why not let them register their name? Just don't force the rest of us to give up their anonymity, to surrender our ability to hide away from everyone for some peace.

Having no registrations to start playing makes it attractive to new and casual players because they don't have to do a thing, it's so easy to start playing. It's so easy to abuse people too, if you want, but registrations have never prevented that and they won't prevent it here.

In short registrations are only good if you want to stop people using your name, they won't solve anything else and will even give you less freedom than choosing whatever name you like.

(re-lurks)

I played last night and Squang logged which actually made me LOL as the real Squang was actually sat next to me watching me play sketchy....

I WILL ignore these people and not give them the satisfaction by replying. Would be much easier to be able to ignore an ip address rather than a username.
Lol, that reminds me of the times 'MsNerdinator' used to come in the same rooms as me even though we had the same ip. It's not possible for us to go in the same room so everyone knew it was a ninny and not my nerdy.
I agree with what you say about being able to ignore an ip rather than a username. Once the person works out they're on ignore they just log on and off with different names and start spamming you with messages so you have to keep ignoring them under 738463810 different names :rolleyes:
BTW I definately dont think its the alledge people doing this, but that its some teenager with a grudge and no brain.
Oi, it's not just teenagers with a grudge and no brains :P
AJ hun those people who do know you wouldnt listen to the US AJ's crap anyway. Like you say, youre not rude or vicous and I dont think ive ever heard you swear.
Thanks, tis a shame not everyone can say the same even though they'd agree with what you just said :rolleyes:

BTW I definitely don't think its the allege people doing this, but that its some teenager with a grudge and no brain.
(lol I just corrected the typos in the quote)

...or maybe anyone who gets kicks out of winding people up.

This forum is a very open public one. Anything you write here, could be 'used' against you. Anything you write here, albeit for only 1 second - before deleting it after posting - cannot be undone, and has entered the public domain. (...Though this is also true for anything written anywhere on the internet Public or Private - so always think before typing anything ;-) And yes they are out to get me.)

eg
Nerdy is marrying a madman apparently, (congrats btw :biggrin:). The poor man, labelled a madman in front of 100's. heh
Aside: Where did she meet this madman? How has she kept the knowledge of her 24/7 addiction of iSketch away from this man...infact HOW the hell has she managed to a) meet a man, b) find out he's mad, c) have a snog, d) get engaged, e) plan a wedding...in her zero hours of time away from iSketch? DopplegangerNerdys? Time machines? :razz:

eg 2
Various people have problems with stalkers. Using an open public forum to complain about it is probably just adding fire to those flames, and inviting more trouble, from anyone cruising through looking for some kicks.
People have had problems with stalkers on iSketch, presumably since it started. The stalkers crave attention, or the knowledge that it's causing a publicised nuisance. Me typing this just adds to that....so perhaps I'll just stop typing h

I WILL ignore these people and not give them the satisfaction by replying. Would be much easier to be able to ignore an ip address rather than a username.


Ive got 9 ip addresses logged down for this person.:S


If like Buffers said they only allow you to register 2 accounts to one ip address then this will stop people logging in with hundreds of names.


Less and less players are on a static ip these days so this would be impractical. You can't tie players to a single ip or a single ip to certain players. Think cyber cafes, libraries, schools & colleges and those people who play from work as well as home.


This forum is a very open public one. Anything you write here, could be 'used' against you. Anything you write here, albeit for only 1 second - before deleting it after posting - cannot be undone, and has entered the public domain. (...Though this is also true for anything written anywhere on the internet Public or Private - so always think before typing anything ;-) And yes they are out to get me.)




I have no doubts the stalkers are reading every word and lapping it up. I would also not be suprised if they posted asking for help on this forum when stopped saying "all of a sudden I can't connect to isketch and I never do anything wrong":rolleyes:

I have no doubts the stalkers are reading every word and lapping it up. I would also not be suprised if they posted asking for help on this forum when stopped saying "all of a sudden I can't connect to isketch and I never do anything wrong":rolleyes:

I'm going to go further and say that I've no doubt that some of the "stalkers" are actually members here and not necessarily the people who are getting blamed for it.

Frankly I've been stunned by the attacks on Rob in a forum which everyone knows is indexed by search engines and it's a bit hypocritical of those people if they moan about him on here, then log on to his FREE game and save themselves the cost of alternative entertainment. If and when Rob decides to introduce registrations, and if he then decides to take payment for it, I wonder how many of the people moaning about it now will start moaning about the cost?

If iSketch was my game and I was subject to such demands/abuse, I'd delay introducing registrations even longer, It's Rob's site and he can do what he likes - or doesn't like. And if he introduces other things instead because he gets more fun out of those, then that's his choice.

And in case you think I don't know what it's like to be stalked on iSketch, actually I do. My stalker was nasty, and vicious, and continued his 'campaign' for several months. But I and all my friends simply ignored him. He got no response from me or anyone else, and in the end he got fed up and stopped. I'd suggest that anyone who has 'impostors' should do the same as I did: ignore it, rise above it, and get over it.

If and when Rob decides to introduce registrations, and if he then decides to take payment for it, I wonder how many of the people moaning about it now will start moaning about the cost?
Or, if registration is optional, there may be debates about double-standards emerging between VIP and unregistered members. There is no way to please everybody, and Rob is under no obligation to please anybody - yet most of us seem to enjoy the game very much. Easy to take that for granted..

I'd suggest that anyone who has 'impostors' should do the same as I did: ignore it, rise above it, and get over it.
I'd just like to state that I ignore my impostor, well, I've not had the opportunity to 'meet' it as it never talks to me :rolleyes: I know everyone else has ignored it cos they know it's not me. I even get messages on MSN asking whenever an AJ has logged on to make sure whether it's me or not
/me has the DNA sample ready at all times now
My impostor logs off straight away anyway, it's a nothing but a scaredy-cat, therefore, I WIN! :razz:

well said AJ

I WILL ignore these people and not give them the satisfaction by replying. Would be much easier to be able to ignore an ip address rather than a username.


I agree with you MrsSquang. This is by far the best thing to do. Don't forget that you don't even have to ignore 'manually'! iSketch will do it for you -- click on the user's name and press 'Ignore'.

My experience as an admin has shown that players who do not even give one single response to imposters sending messages of any kind, will make them very bored. They won't bug you if you [act like you] don't care. A little tip for 'not caring' of mine is: if someone is stealing your username "userxyz", don't reconnect as "userxyz1" - secretly tell your player friends an alternative username that you will connect as in the event of an imposter.

I would guess that the "imposters" have gotten exactly what they wanted by this thread even existing, right?

I've never been stalked on iSketch - er, I don't think so anyway...

Those are very good tips, Kean, thanks!

Last night in isketch, a player was in with myself, bell, and many other regulars.
This player admitted to being one of the said stalkers we have on isketch at the moment, and said that himself and his friends go in rooms with regulars, watch them play, gather info on them and then stalk them all to cause as much trouble as they can.
This was said in the open room for all to read, in the end we took his ip and booted his butt in to shape, but come on where are these weirdo,s from are thet really that sad to make a proffesion of this ffs.
I think that they are doing it for a very good reason, a reason i cant go in to right now but anyone wanting to know what i think them pm me ill share my views.

in the end we took his ip and booted his butt in to shapeBy doing this, and then writing about it on the forum, you are giving the stalker the satisfaction he or she is after. As soon as you cease to gratify them, there will be no reason to continue their pursuit!

I also hope the imposter did something to break the rules, in order for regular players to boot. Remember that we're not allowed to boot people for impostering or stalking. No one "owns" a name. But in the past, I've seen regular players boot people for using other regular players' common names. Don't do it, people. Wait for violations to take place (so that you don't step into vote abuse).

Any negative interactions on iSketch could cause negative consequences for either or both parties. As sense/net wisely stated, don't give them what they're after.

I've seen regular players boot people for using other regular players' common names.


That's totally vote abuse. There's this guy that goes with the name "2" who told me he was booted for just that, and that's not even close to my name. I guess it's attenuated if it's stalking, but i often promote the use of /ignore.

Just keep ignoring the imposters, as mentioned a lot in this thread. Hopefully if/when registration is available, they wont register 'your' names! :eek:

By doing this, and then writing about it on the forum, you are giving the stalker the satisfaction he or she is after. As soon as you cease to gratify them, there will be no reason to continue their pursuit!

Well after well over two months of horrific Pms and me only replying ONCE a polite please me alone (ages ago )its STILL happening ,,how long shall I ignore?.I'm not posting details on here but there is a lot more involved that just name "stealing" .If anyone wants to know real story pm me for details .It is hard to ignore when for one you cant use the ignore button cause of frequency of name changing (every ten seconds some times) I have told admin exactly whats happening and think I am within my right to boot ..something I do not do lightly .I would never boot for nothing or just simple name stealing.When we booted Admin was there and fully understood why it was done . Only reason I gave in and commented on forum was due to the comments made on here not because of my new found "friends "getting joy from reading it which I know they do for a fact, but to let those of you who dont know whole story that maybe you should before commenting :sad:
Ps I am not singling out sense net just using their quote as an example .no offence intended

I also hope the imposter did something to break the rules, in order for regular players to boot. Remember that we're not allowed to boot people for impostering or stalking. No one "owns" a name. But in the past, I've seen regular players boot people for using other regular players' common names. Don't do it, people. Wait for violations to take place (so that you don't step into vote abuse).

Before reading, keep in mind that I don't know each and every rule, so bear with me for a moment here.

MsNerdinator, I agree that in iSketch, it's wrong to vote someone off just for using someone else's username. But in this case, the key factor is about the intentions. Can't impostoring and stalking go under the "excessive rudeness towards players" category when booting? Sure, those two examples can include simply using a username that someone else may normally use, but what's more is that they're both rude, mean, and generally considered wrong and criminal!

For one thing, impostors are frauds. Sure, someone may pretend to be someone else because they think it's fun or a prank, but there are people who can take this very seriously! Sometimes people, and often online, impostor others to gain some kind of advantage. People can get hurt when this happens, for example giving out information to someone they thought was someone else, or accused of something they never did.

Secondly, here's the Wikipedian definition for stalking: "...repeated harassment or other forms of invasion of a person's privacy in a manner that causes fear to its target." It's a crime! Tell me, why shouldn't we vote for that again?

Okay, okay, sorry, I'm done for now...

All very valid points sketches, and i kinda agree with you, but bear in mind that admins operate under certain guidelines and they must get a lot of he said she said, so that one person says stalking doesnt always make it so, and so we jump into one of the famous gray areas of isketch. So if you're caught booting someone for no apparent reason and an admin just happens to ask around, you could get into a lot of trouble for abusing your vote, if the admin does not believe you that is.

How easy is it just to change ones username and to keep your friends on your buddy list? Unless the stalker is willing to scan through IPs, i think aside from /ignore, as bell clearly indicated doesn't always work, changing ones username even if only temporarily and just notifying your just buddies is always an option.

Before reading, keep in mind that I don't know each and every rule, so bear with me for a moment here.

MsNerdinator, I agree that in iSketch, it's wrong to vote someone off just for using someone else's username. But in this case, the key factor is about the intentions. Can't impostoring and stalking go under the "excessive rudeness towards players" category when booting? Sure, those two examples can include simply using a username that someone else may normally use, but what's more is that they're both rude, mean, and generally considered wrong and criminal!

For one thing, impostors are frauds. Sure, someone may pretend to be someone else because they think it's fun or a prank, but there are people who can take this very seriously! Sometimes people, and often online, impostor others to gain some kind of advantage. People can get hurt when this happens, for example giving out information to someone they thought was someone else, or accused of something they never did.

Secondly, here's the Wikipedian definition for stalking: "...repeated harassment or other forms of invasion of a person's privacy in a manner that causes fear to its target." It's a crime! Tell me, why shouldn't we vote for that again?

Okay, okay, sorry, I'm done for now...

"harrassing other players" is listed in the official rules as something which is not allowed. This should mean that you can boot for harrassment. Although, the very nature of people who would want to do this would make booting pointless unless the room is full, as they will no doubt keep coming back in.

Unless the stalker is willing to scan through IPs,

What if they are? They do exist. What if they trace IPs? Not being unpleasant or scaremongery at all I just wondered what do you do if they can? IPs can be used to trace to your area. Best not to play the game if you don't want this breached. I'm certain it was a precaution set up for security; it's a good way to trace any criminal activity on the game but now as it's common knowledge there's every chance it can be abused. I've seen 'regs' tell newbies or other players where they live in public rooms for a 'laugh', this understandably confuses and upsets them. They don't know what an IP address is yet it's available to anyone on isketch and they haven't been informed of this when they log on. There's no way to avoid this kind of character online without avoiding being online entirely or minimizing the sites you visit. That's what I thought anyway.

Perhaps this will help:

protect yourself (http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=29116667)

Other than that, you can't look to isketch to change the rules to prevent cyberstalking. These people will find their way through anything especially if they're experienced on the internet.

I completely agree with that people shouldn't vote simply for someone using 'their' name. No-one is allowed any one individual name on isketch apart from the admin because there are no registrations. You have no rights other than that given to you by the self-police system. I've known people follow others and bully them until they give up 'their' name when it's an altogether common name used on millions of internet sites worldwide. So common in fact, that they couldn't get registered as that name on any other site on the internet! The self-police system and feedback, that's the way isketch is. If players don't like it, they needn't go there.

I also agree that the intention of such people should be considered. We once had someone under a well known and respected player's name sitting in our room on away for at least an hour, it wasn't them, it was someone who later used the conversation in the room in a detrimental manner to stalk and goad further players.

Changing your name entirely is possibly the best option. However, if you have a static IP and a persistent stalker they'll find you if you play. The dynamic IP is good for hiding, but... it is for you and your stalker.

Sorry to be blunt but that's the way it is and anyone who thinks otherwise is burying their head in the sand or expecting Rob to wave a magic wand. Not the way the internet is I'm afraid.

How easy is it just to change ones username and to keep your friends on your buddy list? Unless the stalker is willing to scan through IPs, i think aside from /ignore, as bell clearly indicated doesn't always work, changing ones username even if only temporarily and just notifying your just buddies is always an option.

I've changed my name 3 times in 2 months ...sadly this has only helped for a matter of days..Like It has already been said if they want to find you they will and having no life and too much time on there hands means they have all our ips :mad:

I also hope the imposter did something to break the rules, in order for regular players to boot. Remember that we're not allowed to boot people for impostering or stalking. No one "owns" a name. But in the past, I've seen regular players boot people for using other regular players' common names. Don't do it, people. Wait for violations to take place (so that you don't step into vote abuse).
Yes nerdy after 4 years in isketch i know the rules lol, and yes this person insulted players, drew porn wrote insults in the game box and generally disrupted the game.
Do you think that was enough reason to kick it i do.
And to go a bit further, ive seen people kicked for a lot less than that by regulars who should know the rules also, but no one seems to mention it to them.
The player gave us lots of info on his stalking and his co stalkers, screenshots have been taken and saved, so hopefully it may start to get better now if that big slip up means they may be gone soon, who knows stress free isketch, niceee.:razz:
Another add on.
Before im accused of being rude in this reply i wasent being.
Im just answering nerdys question about supposid vote abuse, yes all of us kick for no good reason at some point ive dont it, and im sure ive seen most regs do it as well and noobs, dosent make it right, but human error and bad judgemaent, is human nature isnt it.
We are not programmed computers were human and make mistakes, but on the whole people i play with generally play a proper game within the rules ect, i mean if we dident why would people who are deemed decent players play in our rooms, including you msnerd, you are a regular player in most rooms us lot play in, im sure you come in to play a decent game within the rules and to relax amoung friends, and ive never seen you say to anyone hey you lot thats vote abuse, so hun i know you cannot have meant in your post that you dident belive the stalkers kick was invalid. xxxxxxxxx

I'm very sorry to know that iSketch is causing any players stress. The iSketch game is optional. If it's stressful, I choose to log off.

In the meantime, the admin team does it's best keep things fun and fair. It's impossible to concentrate all of our resources in an isolated area leaving other problems unattended. I do hope that any imposters and stalkers will soon get bored and just stop whatever it is they are doing. My best advice is to not allow the stalkers to know they are achieving their goal.

Yes nerdy after 4 years in isketch i know the rules lol, and yes this person insulted players, drew porn wrote insults in the game box and generally disrupted the game.

Lol, my comment was for everyone, seems like I needed to state that a bit better. I know there has been some vote abuse in the past (in the last few days even), regarding names. I think it's a good reminder for anyone who goes through the same name issue. It's good to stress to other people that it's vote abuse to boot someone just for having someone elses' "name" (in their eyes), because some forget or think it's okay. I've seen it myself.

Though your example, with reasons to boot, is different.

i mean if we dident why would people who are deemed decent players play in our rooms, including you msnerd, you are a regular player in most rooms us lot play in, im sure you come in to play a decent game within the rules and to relax amoung friends, and ive never seen you say to anyone hey you lot thats vote abuse, so hun i know you cannot have meant in your post that you dident belive the stalkers kick was invalid. xxxxxxxxx

Personally, I play in rooms full of regular players sometimes, but that doesn't mean I think they're all decent players. I just do it if there are a few of my own friends in there that I haven't played with in a while :) Also, I do openly speak out where there is vote abuse amongst regulars. I don't think you and I are in the same rooms enough for you to see it, lol. Especially regarding the name issues.

ffs, we just had to create an invite only room to avoid the fakers. They were bragging about the fact that we couldn't boot them because of a name. I didn't vote because it is the rule, but back to the registration issue....

WHEN?

Five years ago this was a fun game, now pfft, the only people enjoying it are the idiots spoiling it.
That's fine as an opinion, but I believe that statement is far from the fact. Would we all be talking about a game we didn't enjoy? Maybe the issue of 'griefing' has gained attention recently, but it was happening five years ago, too!

These "people" and use that word loosely, constantly pm'd me, why am i there im too old blah blah blah, the usual drivel, that they were put on ignore, which meant then I'd put friends on ignore as they were using known reg users names. I think in this instance the ignore feature is usless.
Do you mean if you ignore them you'll be ignoring your friends so you won't do that?
If so, you won't be ignoring your friends, you will only be ignoring that fake person.

For example if fake MrsSquang PMed me abuse, I'd stick her on ignore. Then if she were to log off and you were to log on and then PM me, I would get your PM.
However, if fake MrsSquang logged off (after being ignored) then logged back on, she would be able to PM me again. Logging on and off kinda "resets" the ignore option, so you have to continuously ignore someone.

You should ignore them though, just don't bother responding anymore, they'll get bored :)

Sadly these are relatively isolated incidents against players who happen to be regulars of this forum. The issue is affecting you at the moment and spoiling your enjoyment of the game but it is still isolated :sad:

Do you mean if you ignore them you'll be ignoring your friends so you won't do that?
If so, you won't be ignoring your friends, you will only be ignoring that fake person.
For example if fake MrsSquang PMed me abuse, I'd stick her on ignore. Then if she were to log off and you were to log on and then PM me, I would get your PM.
However, if fake MrsSquang logged off (after being ignored) then logged back on, she would be able to PM me again. Logging on and off kinda "resets" the ignore option, so you have to continuously ignore someone.

Hmm.... not sure if that is strictly correct AJ.

When you /ignore someone you technically ignore that username until the time you log off and log back in again. Them logging off and logging back in again will not make the slightest bit of difference as *you* are using your session to ignore that person... if that makes the slightest bit of sense :razz:


Re: Registrations

I have said this many times and will say it again. Whilst I would appreciate the ability to register - it is Rob's decision and his alone. He must have his own reasons for not wishing to enact this facility and as he has provided this fantastic game for us (and at no expense to ourselves) we should make use of the systems in place already (feedback, /ignore, admins et al).

S/N raises a very valid point - it is no different now then it was a few months or years ago. It is just sometimes you are targeted but on the whole, you are not. Rising above it and not reacting or responding is the best possible course of action to take - but if the abuse is particularly bad the best failsafe way is to screencap and record IP's of the 'abuser' and send it to Feedback.

AJ If you ignore a user eg fake MrsSquang if that person then logs off and I then log on you will still be ignoring me therefore not receiving any of my messages. You wont even see me log on.

Hmm.... not sure if that is strictly correct AJ.

When you /ignore someone you technically ignore that username until the time you log off and log back in again. Them logging off and logging back in again will not make the slightest bit of difference as *you* are using your session to ignore that person... if that makes the slightest bit of sense :razz:
Oops! My bad! I just tried it out with nerdy
/flirt /ignore MsNerdinator (If only it was possible to do so in real life too! :P)
What a stinker, I'm so sure it used to work like that.. or was that back in the day of my bad net connection? :rolleyes:
Yeah, TF, I get what you mean about it being my session. Welcome back btw!

/me hugs TF
/me stops spamming and leaves quickly

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2097/popularthreadagebc4.gif

Random dorky imposter: "Look they're all talking about us, they'll never know we're here or who we are *fnark fnark*."

Random dorky imposter 2: "Whoah! I've never had this much attention ever! People with boobies are noticing me! Makes me wanna hook up to free cable porn in celebration."

Random dorky imposter 3: "What name do we take tomorrow to get even more attention? I MUST finish my death star mural!"

Random... oh ad nauseum,you get the idea.

Oh btw... if you see Lumiere on isketch tonight or any other night it's not me :biggrin: I don't use this name to play. Or if you do: give me time to sort things out it's hard to be 'Lumiere' AND tune my porn in. ;) Oh sorry., mistaking myself for somebody else :razz:

That's fine as an opinion, but I believe that statement is far from the fact. Would we all be talking about a game we didn't enjoy? Maybe the issue of 'griefing' has gained attention recently, but it was happening five years ago, too!
Although id like to see regisrations, i have to agree that sense nets statment here is absolutly right.

Sadly these are relatively isolated incidents against players who happen to be regulars of this forum. The issue is affecting you at the moment and spoiling your enjoyment of the game but it is still isolated :sad:

Agreed.
And i don't wanna be mean or harsh, but i have to wonder why people are getting stalked/annoyed. Certainly i have been annoyed by a lot of people but i have strategies to deal with that (ignoring, booting, changing rooms, changing names) and maybe i was once stalked to a certain extent (like 5 years ago), but neither cause me to stay awake at night. Maybe i'm not that interesting or perhaps i'm just ignorant of the issues.

Well, if I ain't being impersonated ( and by that I mean badly ) Last night for instance, when I tried to log into isk i was asked through MSN if it was really me signing in, as my faker had been on and done his/her best to upset my good friends.( not that i mind that as it sets ppls minds at ease ) Not only have they resorted to that, they are sending some nasty pm's ( make your eye's curl they would ) it is hard to get their IP's as no longer they pm you then they are gone again. Only way I can get their IP's is if they log on under one of my friends names that way i check their profile out first. Although if they use names like F***y Fart etc... then we don't stand a chance. It is lucky that ppl know my sense of humour, and know when it's fakers on as me or not. At least I was able to catch a fakers IP last night.

/me wonders if anyone else thinks it is someone, that really knows everything about us :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well, if I ain't being impersonated ( and by that I mean badly ) Last night for instance, when I tried to log into isk i was asked through MSN if it was really me signing in, as my faker had been on and done his/her best to upset my good friends.( not that i mind that as it sets ppls minds at ease ) Not only have they resorted to that, they are sending some nasty pm's ( make your eye's curl they would ) it is hard to get their IP's as no longer they pm you then they are gone again. Only way I can get their IP's is if they log on under one of my friends names that way i check their profile out first. Although if they use names like F***y Fart etc... then we don't stand a chance. It is lucky that ppl know my sense of humour, and know when it's fakers on as me or not. At least I was able to catch a fakers IP last night.

* Cunny_Funt;100885 wonders if anyone else thinks it is someone, that really knows everything about us :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
My thoughts on this match yours cunny, i think someone is out to get us lol, maybe the boogyman

Mrs squang babe, ive only just found out what is going on, i was pmed by this cretin last night lol.
He/ she told me that i was fat gasp shock horror, as if i dident already know that lmfao.
I hope this all stops for you and eric cartman soon sweet cheeks.xx

I do believe that this person impersonated/logged on but did nothing as others as soon as they posted in this thread. Well, I saw that with one particular person. So if this person now logs on as AJ, it's not me cos I've not been on iSk for yonks or if I have been it's under a different name :p

Oh and with regards to seeing all your profile info, although it's only for isketch forum members to view, people can just register here with random names and access your info that way, so it's prolly not worth taking the risk and sticking private info up there anyway.

Dunno if this is where this next bit belongs, but don't you think iSketch seems a lot calmer and friendlier lately? :)

I say no AJ, isketch is getting worse lately.
You only have to see what squange and eric are going through to see that.

... I've not been on iSk for yonks ...

... don't you think iSketch seems a lot calmer and friendlier lately? :)

Is there a connection >:-) ?

I say no AJ, isketch is getting worse lately.
You only have to see what squange and eric are going through to see that.They could just use other names for a bit. There was something else kinda useful I was gonna say although after sneezing and blowing my nose I seem to have forgotten what it was. On the plus side I can breathe outta my nose now. Just sharing that thought with you lot, even though you really didn't wanna know that :smile:

Is there a connection >:-) ?Not seen you about on the rare occasions I log on :p

But seriously, if you were to pull yourselves away from your own individual crowds and enter newbie filled rooms or with other randoms, it's better than what it used to be, right? :)

Oh, I didn't realise it was bullying. Wow, how lame of them :|

Re: Using a different name and hiding, that seems to work longer than logging on as your usual name. Perhaps it would be a better idea to go under this different name and have your friends do the same, then make a user created room, so they can't find you in your regular room and they can't follow your friends. I assume the person knows your ip so they're checking the ip of everyone in the same room as your friends... which is uber lame and to go to that much effort this person must need a life :eek:

Re: Having usernames/passwords, that won't solve the bullying and PMing, it would only solve impostering so registrations really don't matter at this point :/

First of all, I think this is an important thread. As regular players, most of us have been a target of some form of bullying at least once, so here we can share techniques for dealing with it.

I also think it's a good idea not to call out impersonators on the forum. If the person/people behind this are reading it, unfortunately they may get satisfaction from seeing a direct response. Nobody has infinite patience - I imagine heckling strangers in a computer game is not too exciting if your targets are immune to it.

It hardly matters, calling them out in here. These people are just insignificant little tw@s.

The Internet stalker probably has other unpleasant characteristics that sexual harassers possess, and the usual sexual inadequacy including lack of intimacy, controlling behaviour, no concept of the partner's needs, premature ejaculation, and an abnormal belief bordering on obsession in his smallness (pin-dick).

Based on research about such persons, they generally fit this description:


lives in a 1-room apartment which hasn't been cleaned for months - if ever
has stacks of pornographic magazines in his bedroom area
has poor personal hygiene
has poor table manners
has poor social etiquette
hasn't changed the sheets on his bed for months, which are now best described as crusty
has a bathroom, the state of which doesn't bear thinking about
lives on pizza and beer/coke, the remnants of which litter his apartment
may have an unusual pet (eg ferret) which has free run of the apartment
is either significantly over- or under-weight
has a small moustache or other facial hair
has not held down any job for more than a couple of years, probably less
has no friends
has no life outside the Internet


Having seen what the unkown person has said about Mrs Squang, one can only be led to believe they would most likely meet ALL the criteria listed above.

It hardly matters, calling them out in here. These people are just insignificant little tw@s.

The Internet stalker probably has other unpleasant characteristics that sexual harassers possess, and the usual sexual inadequacy including lack of intimacy, controlling behaviour, no concept of the partner's needs, premature ejaculation, and an abnormal belief bordering on obsession in his smallness (pin-dick).

Based on research about such persons, they generally fit this description:

lives in a 1-room apartment which hasn't been cleaned for months - if ever
has stacks of pornographic magazines in his bedroom area
has poor personal hygiene
has poor table manners
has poor social etiquette
hasn't changed the sheets on his bed for months, which are now best described as crusty
has a bathroom, the state of which doesn't bear thinking about
lives on pizza and beer/coke, the remnants of which litter his apartment
may have an unusual pet (eg ferret) which has free run of the apartment
is either significantly over- or under-weight
has a small moustache or other facial hair
has not held down any job for more than a couple of years, probably less
has no friends
has no life outside the Internet
Having seen what the unkown person has said about Mrs Squang, one can only be led to believe they would most likely meet ALL the criteria listed above.
Oh cheers BM my cover is well and truly blown now:eek:
Cherry buggers off for a shave.

I've had my fair share of this wally as well. Luckily because I've been *cough* busy :razz: this week I've not had any more pm's. I do get fed up with it tho because you end up spending more time screenshotting and sorting that out than you do playing the game.


LOL BM I bet you've hit the nail right on the head with your post :twisted:

Im really sorry to have to bump this thread but just a friendly word of warning to all on here.
Imposter (affectionately know as "pleb") has upt his game, as of today.
He is looking at .net profiles and adding you to his msn, parading as me.
He is using the same addy for his msn to add regs as he used to try and register, as me, on TSP.
If someone called spacey adds you to their msn its NOT me nor am I known as MrsSquang on msn.
If anyone wants to know the email he's using pm me.


I will not reply to this post as I'm not prepared to argue the toss with people who dont understand the ins and outs of whats going on.

This is just a friendly warning to those regs who have their msn addys etc for all to see.

:(, thats so sad squangy, the guys a butt for doing that.