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Pgh Sharon
07-01-2009, 02:54 PM
I am becoming very tired and fed up of being accused of cheating with REDwine. Being harrassed by noobs, stalked by admin. and being warned for our theme draws. Alot of players have "themes" it is not against the rules. I am constantly being pm from nameless,hidden, admin. that warn me to stick to the subject. The word is drawn in every sketch, just because i dont draw big bold arrows for the noobs, is not violating anything! But i can sit there and watch 12 yr old punks draw penis draws repeatedly...no hidden nameless admin, to be found then. A letter was sent to REDwine from Isketch, (not so friendly letter either) saying we are not liked by admin.'s Oh well.... As long as I follow the rules, I could care less. Never going to meet the nameless hidden admin anyways in life. So until the day I draw a penis, swear in chat, or abuse my booting votes...please back off! I read the very unprofessional letter written to REDwine from Sketch.. So sad. Its bad enough to be harrased by noobs, but admin. getting carried away with thier power is ridiculous. Until they find a a "real" job i life...i guess i will wait for their pm.'s in chat.
Pgh Sharon PS. [name removed] I hope yor daygets better honey!

db1986
07-01-2009, 02:59 PM
Pgh_Sharon, I understand that someone accusing you of cheating can be very annoying, especially if the same people persist.
However, iSketchForum is not affiliated with iSketch itself, so you should send your complaint to Feedback at info@isketch.net. They should be able to provide help and assistance to your problem as they are directly related to the everyday maintenance of iSketch.

Pgh Sharon Ps. to (Name Removed).. hope your day gets better!

Also, please do not name iSketch admins, it is against the rules of this forum, no matter what the circumstances. Your post will most likely be edited by a member of our moderation team.

I hope it doesn't stop you playing iSketch, and I hope this post of mine helps you :)

TempusFugit
07-01-2009, 03:20 PM
This forum is not officially connected with iSketch and I would suggest that if you have a complaint regarding admin that you do so through feedback (as db1986 pointed out). I have also removed the name of the admin as we operate a 'no naming' policy.

2.0
07-01-2009, 03:29 PM
I'm no fan of theme draws, but i don't complain if they're clean theme draws, like one player who always draws the word in a snowstorm or the one that does the chicken doing the verbs.

Pgh Sharon
07-01-2009, 03:45 PM
Thats fine. Will do!

db1986
07-01-2009, 03:50 PM
It is a valid subject though as I have been in a room that has been "given" a theme.
The theme seemed to be ducks. Although the word was drawn every time it was incorporated into a BP with a duck present.

I couldn't see in the rules about things like this, but for anyone just joining the game it can confuse their guessing.

I guess an admin would think that the repeated theme word, in this case the duck, would be off the subject, but it wouldn't bother me as a player in the slightest, as long as the artist didn't specifically break any rules.

Sorsie
07-01-2009, 03:53 PM
I suppose it might also depend on the speed of the draw... If you spent ages making the theme rather than drawing the item it might be seen as umm.. off topic I suppose. So for example sticking with deebsies example of ducks and the word was rake...
If you spent all but like the last 5 seconds drawing a duck, then drew in the rake, it would probably be seen as off topic, and not drawing the word. On the other hand if you drew a duck.. vaguely.. using quarter to half of the time, then drew in the rake.. or started off with a rake, then drew in the duck, I think would be better.

Capt_Sparrow
07-01-2009, 03:59 PM
Personally I'd say it's up to the artist how they want to draw the word, as long as it is within the rules. Some people use puns :razz: to draw a word, so if that is allowed, along with "sounds like" and using syllables to split the word up, I don't see why using a theme should be considered off-topic.

db1986
07-01-2009, 04:01 PM
Everyone has their own theme. As Sorsie says, if you don't spend too long on a theme, you should be OK. Maybe something like this should be clarified in the rules.

Lol Pgh Sharon, you've started a friendly debate :razz:

Sorsie
07-01-2009, 04:14 PM
Just clarifying :P I don't mind themes at all :P As long as it isn't confusing, and it doesn't take too long to draw...

Although hmm confusing.. It may be hard to tell what's theme what's not.. As long as it's not a complicated theme then it's fine I think :) I think what admins do is probably use their judgement on stuff like this to see whether it's too much theme or straying from the draw too much.. hmm iono. xD

Sierra
07-01-2009, 05:46 PM
I am becoming very tired and fed up of being accused of cheating with REDwine. Being harrassed by noobs, stalked by admin. and being warned for our theme draws. Alot of players have "themes" it is not against the rules. I am constantly being pm from nameless,hidden, admin. that warn me to stick to the subject.
I would just like to address these issues with a gentle reminder if I may. Many long time, skilled iSketch players are accused of cheating, I see this as an admin every day. Please keep in mind that newer players are not familiar with the word list and perhaps that a wordlist actually exists and many players, such as myself, do not have the same level of typing skills as you do. It can very easily be perceived by a newer player as cheating when words are guessed so quickly. I usually try to explain to the newer players that iSketch has many seasoned players who are capable of solving the puzzles quickly without cheating. Some tolerance of newer players can go a long way. If admin are not available to help resolve the accusations of cheating, try to point out that you'd have to be cheating with the whole room if you are guessing most of the artist's draws quickly.

Theme draws are a slippery slope for the same reasons stated above about newer players and their experience with the more seasoned players. Theme draws are not against the rules as long as the word is drawn within the time allotted and the draw is not offensive. Newer players might have no idea theme drawers exist on iSketch and what they see is a player drawing the same thing every time and they become irritated and come to an understandable conclusion that the draw is off-topic.

As mentioned in another post here, theme draws can be quite creative and entertaining to watch. However, the content of the theme should be carefully considered by the artists. If you are starting your draw with two stick figures in some kind of perceived romantic positions, whether they are male & female, two female, or two males, makes no difference. Routinely starting the draw with figures embracing in various positions implies a sexual intent to the draw especially when combined with the related chat.

iSketch offers many options for users so might I offer a few suggestions since you feel fed up and titled this thread with "it's getting old".?

* If you have little tolerance for the newbies, please realize that the easy rooms will be the most likely places populated with newer players. Perhaps try a more difficult room or a user created room.

* Try to adjust your playing style to accommodate the lack of experience if newer players are present.

* Accept the fact that theme draws, perceived sexual draws, and perpetual flirting in chat will provoke voting and possible warnings and/or kicks from admins as heavy cybering is a violation even if it doesn't contain swearing. Swearing is not what indicates heavy cybering.

2.0
07-01-2009, 06:18 PM
One way to reduce the chance of getting voted on by inexperienced newbies is to not play in the easy rooms as you guys often do. There are so many wonderful rooms with complex wordlists... i havent had a single reason to play in UK easy or US easy for years.

db1986
07-01-2009, 06:27 PM
One way to reduce the chance of getting voted on by inexperienced newbies is to not play in the easy rooms as you guys often do. There are so many wonderful rooms with complex wordlists... i havent had a single reason to play in UK easy or US easy for years.

Usually the "Special" rooms provide more complex wordlists, but some regulars will tend to stay in these rooms as they have a knowledge of a lot of the words on the list. If inexperienced players enter these types of rooms, there is still a possibility of accusations of cheating.
Although, as 2.0 has already pointed out, it only reduces the chance, it doesn't eliminate it.

In my opinion, as Sierra said, it is best to make a User Created room to avoid these situations arising.

Pgh Sharon
07-01-2009, 06:49 PM
Lol i would love to know your definition of cybering. Where i come from that is farrrrrrrrrrrrr from cybering.. flirting= cybering.. hmmm.. sorry i never use swear words or any language of a sexual nature...

db1986
07-01-2009, 07:09 PM
I don't think anyone was accusing you of cybering or flirting. We're only giving you some advice.

2.0
07-01-2009, 07:13 PM
2.0 has already pointed out, it only reduces the chance, it doesn't eliminate it.

Slightly reduces.

Sierra
07-01-2009, 09:06 PM
Lol i would love to know your definition of cybering. Where i come from that is farrrrrrrrrrrrr from cybering.. flirting= cybering.. hmmm.. sorry i never use swear words or any language of a sexual nature...
My definition of cybering is irrelevant. My opinion of whether or not the draws and chat are sexually explicit is irrelevant also. It's up to the game's creator to decide these things and the admins to enforce them. The intent of my post was to try to explain why new players are likely to vote against these things and to try to help eliminate the things that are "getting old" for you.

Please realize that iSketch is full of young penis artists and the admins do our best to deal with this. The porn drawing, foul mouthed racists are probably not the same newbies who are objecting to your draws and chat. I can only assume that they are objecting to something you are doing yet you continue and then post to complain about it. You have the power to stop what it is you're tiring of. It's simple, just don't give them anything to object to. It's been going on long enough for you to know what it is they find objectionable. The accusations of cheating are a whole different subject and we handle that the best we can.

>:D
13-01-2009, 08:43 PM
hey i know you, i've seen your drawings they're not too bad but sometimes they're a little gross..not the whole gay thing, i mean like ex: i saw you draw 1 person putting their finger in a girl's privates..in detail..:I
kinda awkward when no one gets the word..and theres little kids that play the game too.. and its kind of annoying when people draw inside jokes so only their friends can get the answer. but i can't complain, i do that too sometimes

Pgh Sharon
21-01-2009, 05:35 PM
Wow.. Ever since my last letter to the forum, it just getsfunnier and funnier each day I play. Secret admin. nameless admin.(aren't around for real violations) but sure are available when me and REDwine are on. So... in one day, lets see.... i used emotes in the chat (kiss, hug) goodbye to friends.. Got pm. from nameless admin. to behave myself.. I had no comment with the emotes.. just hugs and kisses...hmmmm odd? Not really lately... Then I am in a room, someone uses letters, I warn.. Hmmm there is that secret hidden nameless admin. to pm. me that violating my voting rights they will be taken off me? Umm... Whats up with that? Oh you must of just signed in the room, after my vote to violate,and the person erased letters.. so u figured i was in the wrong correct? I get a kick out of that me and REDwine have shadows everywhere we go. So befoe the nameless admin.'s tell me to not violate the voting rights......Don't violate your power yourself!
Pgh Sharon...also known as Snarky....Even my son was watching me play, becuase he likes to watch me and REDwine draw.. H saw the pm from admin. and said..:"Wow, Mom u didnt even do anything!" yes son, i know...its kind of funny isnt it?

Sorsie
21-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Umm.. did you read the last thread you posted?

If you have a problem with the admin you should message feedback this complaint...

Hmm goes to quote...

Pgh_Sharon, I understand that someone accusing you of cheating can be very annoying, especially if the same people persist.
However, iSketchForum is not affiliated with iSketch itself, so you should send your complaint to Feedback at info@isketch.net. They should be able to provide help and assistance to your problem as they are directly related to the everyday maintenance of iSketch.

You mat get pissed off with the admins etc, but I'm sure they can't just be kicking you for no reason? (No smoke without fire?)

TempusFugit
21-01-2009, 05:49 PM
I can only reiterate the advise given by members in this thread Pgh - please report any concern/complaint you have about the game to feedback.

Thanks :)

db1986
21-01-2009, 05:57 PM
Have you tried messaging Feedback? As we have said, we have no power over the running of iSketch, Feedback does.

Sorsie
21-01-2009, 07:16 PM
Lolol, I did wonder where the other thread went.. I was like.. woaaah no posts.. O_o lolol

/me spanks clocky for confusing sorsie lots.. :P

2.0
21-01-2009, 07:48 PM
Let her vent guys, the forum's good for venting. I'm sure she knows feedback is there for complaints.

db1986
21-01-2009, 11:40 PM
* db1986 points Pgh Sharon to the Random Complaints (http://www.isketchforum.net/random-complaints-t1960.html) thread
That's always good for venting, but not too much :s

Ches
22-01-2009, 12:03 AM
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/me vents

Anyhoo... if >:D is right about your 'theme' draws, then I could understand why some people might not be too keen on them. :S

As, in this instance, you were told not to violate your voting rights, and didn't find yourself stripped of them I would not take it too hard - I've had that a few times, and I figure its just letting you know that there's an admin about, and even maybe they had just entered the room, so couldn't make a sure fire decision to fire out some discipline of the bye bye yellow triangle kind.

Then again, there is always the possibility of a rogue admin, stalking people throughout iSketch with the intention to cause disruption and mischief with their devilish powers. I even quite like that idea... an evil admin, and a good admin - fighting each other for control or chaos over iSketch. A bit like God and the devil, but on a slightly smaller scale - but with much more fearsome consequences. Or maybe like the evil-leaper that appeared in Quantum Leap. But she turned out all right in the end.

I think I may be over tired.

Love y'all.

REDwine
22-01-2009, 02:25 AM
This is totally ridiculous and not exaggerated one bit. This may not be the complaint forum but it appears that admins read this.... so it's good enough.

Tonite Snarky (pgh_sharon) and I (REDwine) were in a room and someone wrote Rx for pills...which are clearly letters....yes???....so we warned....we both get private messages from admin warning us against vote abuse.

Seriously if there is an admin out there who has personal issues with us, they should deal with it in a different manner, not cowardly with private warnings and never identifying themselves....this is not fair at all..

We have been spoken to about behavior in the past and we have listened and done exactly what we have been asked to do by admins....why this admin is doing this is childish.

wow...i feel much better...thank you for letting me vent :)

El_Nino
22-01-2009, 02:27 AM
This is totally ridiculous and not exaggerated one bit. This may not be the complaint forum but it appears that admins read this.... so it's good enough.

Tonite Snarky (pgh_sharon) and I (REDwine) . . .

awww she has a pet name!

so adorable :p

Pgh Sharon
22-01-2009, 02:31 AM
Gee what a surprise..Happened 3 times today...Secret, hidden,nameless admin. warning me for using my violation button when letters were written on the screen. It's getting ridiculous how childish and unprofessional admin. have become, where i thought kids under 12 drawing penis's were annoying. So, can anyone answer why admin can launt their power wrongfully like that? I know me and REDwine aren't love by admin. but come on now, getting kind of carried away with that little bit of power u have arent ya?
Why dont the spineless ones have names anymore.. Afraid of screenshots? hmmm.. So I see Isketch has turned in a different direction lately, noobs can draw penis's, anyone can use words, admin.can be hidden and pm. and warn ban will come..and the violtion button doesnt work for me. So sorry I didnt get that memo, my bad!
So, until tomorrow, when i sign on and enter a room..xoxoxoxoxo secret hidden one.. I will be waiting for the pm. from u, cant wait for the new ridiculous threat from ya then!!!!!

Pgh Sharon....Snarky.....u know .....a.k.a....targeted one

REDwine
22-01-2009, 02:39 AM
LMAO!! glad u like the petname...although that wasnt something that we can take credit for....that was one of our favorite admins who used that word....sharon just liked it enough to honor it and use it daily.

Personally, I had to google it before i found the humor in it.:embarrassed:

*AJ*
22-01-2009, 02:40 AM
I see where you're coming from and although you won't want to, maybe change your names for a bit. You two seem to like playing iSketch a lot and if it ruins the game so much just do this. Maybe an admin has a personal issue with you but they too are humans and do err (not that I'm saying what they're doing is right, if indeed what you say is true) but to keep the peace and stay happy, just change your names, play like that under a certain period of time then when you go back to your current names hopefully the admin(s) would have got over the (personal?) issue they have with you.

There's nothing you can do about unnamed admins so there's prolly no much point in complaining about it. C'est la iSketch.

sense
22-01-2009, 06:38 AM
Tonite Snarky (pgh_sharon) and I (REDwine) were in a room and someone wrote Rx for pills...which are clearly letters....yes???....so we warned....we both get private messages from admin warning us against vote abuse.
Without seeing this incident myself, the Rx symbol could be considered a valid clue. Often there's some similarity between the 26 Latin glyphs and things derived from them ($ from 'S' and 'P', £ from 'L', & from 'et'), but the symbols themselves are OK.

Why dont the spineless ones have names anymore.. Afraid of screenshots? hmmm.. So I see Isketch has turned in a different direction lately, noobs can draw penis's, anyone can use words, admin.can be hidden and pm. and warn ban will come..
Although I think some criticism is good for improvement, generalizing is not helpful and won't solve a problem for you. As others have suggested, consider writing a message to Feedback with your concerns, and details of each incident.

storm
22-01-2009, 11:44 AM
For all your complains pgh_sharon and REDwine, it's just really really bizarre that you get picked on by an admin/admins. I've never experienced this myself. From an outsider perspective, to me, it just doesn't make any sense or seem plausible...

but then again

it might be true, in which case, I'd also back previous suggestions of just creating your own room (making it invite only so noobs don't accidently come in), and still playing in line with the iSketch rules... at least this way, you won't be /forced/ to deal with rude/immature draws; and you'll still get to play the game you love. I guess creating your own room only really works if you have a group of friends who would be willing to join you in your room, but if you've been playing iSk for a while, then you should have a decent sized group of people who would play in a UCR with you.

It's maybe going out of the way, and maybe you shouldn't have to do this just to play a decent game without getting mad, but if you really love iSketch and really want to play then I think you're better off creating your own solution than waiting for someone else to change.

MrsNerdinator
22-01-2009, 12:17 PM
Have you got an evidence of any of this? So often people lie about stuff like this. Not saying you are, but at the same time, you haven't given me a reason to believe you. So I'm just reading all of this while sitting on the fence, to be honest.

Sometimes it is difficult to get screenshots of PMs to match the actual drawing (depending on how far the draw is to the end), but this sounds like its happened to you a lot, so you should be able to print screen some evidence of it..

It's a tough one 'cause,

1. You're either lying and making an admin look bad or,
2. An admin is genuinely being bad out there and abusing their admin privs, and 'cause of lack of proof for it, I can't feel sorry for you.

Without any evidence, people are judging (maybe) one way or the other.. which doesn't seem fair to either party (you or the admin) 'cause of lack of evidence.

Anyways, just saying that it would be interesting to see any screenshots you have of this. If you do post it, maybe blur out the other names in the room. Main thing is to the get the private messages/warnings alongside the drawings that you were voting on. Also, have you shown any evidence to feedback yet? Cheers.

REDwine
22-01-2009, 12:28 PM
I am not going to start my own room. I had a valid issue to vent. I dont have a problem with being warned for things I've done wrong, but to send me an anonymous message for warning for letters it's ridiculous. The warning button is on the screen for a reason. Although, I didn't know Rx was acceptable in isketch...apparently it is according to sense/net, so now I know.

Lying? I wouldn't lower myself to lie about something so ridiculous. I only wrote about that anonymous unjustified warning because it is apparently an admin who has a personal issue.

Admins are humans too, I'm not sure why u would doubt an admin could ever do something they shouldn't be doing. I can't imagine they are all perfect. Also, we arent trying to make an admin look bad...we don't even know who it is...no names have been used in here....the warnings are always anonymous.

We have changed on our part to do what we have been asked to do in isketch...behavior etc....but this admin just won't let us be. That is a fact.

db1986
22-01-2009, 12:33 PM
I am not going to start my own room

I think they meant it as a temporary solution.

doodles
22-01-2009, 01:33 PM
Oh I thought this forum wasnt related to isketch? I'm confused.

REDwine
22-01-2009, 02:24 PM
There is an admin out there who is misusing his/her power. It just happened again.

I was in a room, using a different name and there was a punk in there (there's usually always one) who told us repeatedly he was going to mess with us and not draw the word at all, this completely ruins the game.

2 people in the room voted to boot him, I was one of them, reason...unrelated drawings. Not one of his drawings were even close to the word and I got warned that I could be banned for misusing my voting rights???? Am I missing something here or is there an admin out there who needs to re-read the rules?

The warning button is there...with the option of 'unrelated drawings"....so obviously it is a valid reason to boot someone.

Again, the admin remained anonymous and wouldnt speak to me when I asked the admin in the chat box to explain to me what was the reason for the warning.

2.0
22-01-2009, 02:46 PM
Hmmm i'm tempted to ask you for proof of this behaviour from this hidden admin.

Sorry but I'm not buying until i see a screencap video of this alleged behaviour.

REDwine
22-01-2009, 02:52 PM
I can't imagine hearing that an admin is doing this is so hard to believe. They are human and not incapable of doing something wrong.

I can give u the names of the other people in the room if u like...u could ask them. There was very little chat in the room except for the punk taunting us about not drawing the word. On his third time doing it, he got 2 votes after we warned him not to do it again. We had a good competetive game going and he was ruining it. He then voted to boot me for no reason...he should have been banned....but he wasn't, he continued to draw.

If you explain to me how to do a 'screenshot', I will gladly get it for you.

2.0
22-01-2009, 03:10 PM
To get a screencap of your playing you'll need a screen recorder, preferably free, like camstudio. Or you could pay $300 for one that's licensed but i have a gut feeling not a lot of people want to do that. If you have ever seen a video made in a game (machinima), it's made with that sort of recording software. I have used camstudio in the past and it's alright, not great and sometimes has issues recording sounds, but that's irrelevant for isketch and should work just fine for that.

Once you have it, turn it on when you start playing isketch and turn it off when you stop playing. Edit out the junk and leave in the bits of interest and there you go, just pump it into youtube, vimeo, google videos or any of those services. Mind you that editing is what usually gets movies the oscar, so be careful with the editing. It's not hard but i'm just saying.

If you're on mac, you can use imovie which makes editing movies very easy. If not, most windows based recorders have their own editing integrated into them, though they're usually not as friendly as imovie but they are usable, no need to be a techie to know how to use them.

storm
22-01-2009, 03:15 PM
I can't imagine hearing that an admin is doing this is so hard to believe. They are human and not incapable of doing something wrong. ...

It's not so much "hard to believe" as wanting proof before blindly believing.

... If you explain to me how to do a 'screenshot', I will gladly get it for you.

You can get a 'still' screenshot by pressing the 'print screen' (might be prt scr) tab on your keyboard (you'll find it in the right hand side of your keyboard near home/delete/etc). After you press it, go to MS Paint or some other image editing software, and paste it (hold Ctrl + V at the same time, or select paste from the menu bar on MS Paint). Then upload the image on an image hosting service like photobucket or tinypic and paste the image link here/send to feedback.

MrsNerdinator
22-01-2009, 03:20 PM
REDwine, there's no need to get defensive over what I've stated. At the end of the day, I haven't actually *accused* you of lying. I was just stating how this all looks from someone on the 'outside'. I'm not defending admins either. Yes, they are human and make mistakes and I'm sure at times that some may take advantage - who knows. That's not the issue here. What I was asking for was some screenshots to prove what you were saying is the truth.

I mean, you can't expect to go into a police station and say "I got hit by someone while walking across the street just now" and then refuse to show where you've been attacked (on your body), yet expect the officers (or anyone else) to take you seriously. Not that we're people of authority here (when it comes to iSketch) but you are venting on the forum, and therefore I think it's best to prove what you're saying is actually true. Especially because to me it does sound like a serious issue here (the abusing of votes, etc)

Also, I've asked in my previous message if you sent anything to feedback. I find it strange that you keep defending yourself, but don't aswser basic questions like that. :/

I see 2.0 has posted a message of how to take a video shot of what happens, which is definitely much better than an actual screenshot, but incase that's not possible for you (for whatever reason..), here's how to take a screenshot on a PC:

http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows

If you're on a mac, then press Apple + Shift + 3 (all at the same time). It'll drop the screenshot/picture file to your default settings on your system (which is probably your desktop, anyway).

Edit: Oops, storm beat me.

NoHints
22-01-2009, 04:15 PM
Screenshotting/recording is definately a must because obviously if you want anything to be done about it you'll need evidence.

From what you're saying it appears you don't actually know which admin it is? If you do know who it is, you can usually use commands to show that they're in the room whether they're hiding or not.

REDwine
22-01-2009, 06:41 PM
I didn't mean to come across as being 'defensive' but it is kind of hard not to with what you wrote:

It's a tough one 'cause,

1. You're either lying and making an admin look bad or,
2. An admin is genuinely being bad out there and abusing their admin privs, and 'cause of lack of proof for it, I can't feel sorry for you.

There were 2 choices from you...the first of which was me lying. This is offensive to me because it is not my style...not who I am...and personally I couldn't think of anything I could gain by saying this. I am not trashing any admin in particular, there is no sabotage of any specific admin. But I promise you...there is one who is deliberately abusing their powers.

I am not trying to get any admin in trouble. I have not used anyone's name and I don't have the slightest guess as to which admin it is.

The answer to your question about me going to 'feedback' is no I have not gone to feedback with this....I just want this person off my back, not trying to make this into a bigger issue than it needs to be...I just want it to end. I tried to blow it off the first couple times it happened but now it just won't stop...it's beyond frustrating.

Thank you to all who posted how to do screenshots....I will try to figure it out how to do it and show it to you. Although, the screenshot wont give u the admins name...it always come up saying the same message ADMIN"..with warning of banning me for vote abuse. But I will get it for you anyway.

jenni939706
22-01-2009, 06:54 PM
um....if you're gonna take a screenshot of whatev is happening..it might be better to send that to feedback than posting on here...dunno what people on here can do with a screenshot tbh....

storm
22-01-2009, 07:06 PM
... But I promise you...there is one who is deliberately abusing their powers.

I am not trying to get any admin in trouble. I have not used anyone's name and I don't have the slightest guess as to which admin it is.

The answer to your question about me going to 'feedback' is no I have not gone to feedback with this....I just want this person off my back, not trying to make this into a bigger issue than it needs to be...I just want it to end. I tried to blow it off the first couple times it happened but now it just won't stop...it's beyond frustrating. ...

If you don't know who the admin is, you can't really be sure it's one particular admin :rolleyes:

Also, going to feedback would probably help with this more as well. Just because some admins read this forum, it doesn't mean they all do. Your particular admin (if it is actually just one) might not even visit this forum and therefore not see any of your complaints...

Anything you post here might be read by the person/people you are aiming your writing to, but if you send it to feedback, it will probably get read by more relevant people who can do something about it (if something can be done), IMHO.

MrsNerdinator
22-01-2009, 07:29 PM
The answer to your question about me going to 'feedback' is no I have not gone to feedback with this....I just want this person off my back, not trying to make this into a bigger issue than it needs to be...I just want it to end.

I'm surprised you haven't gone to feedback (despite the previous advise in this thread) but have posted here instead :S Trust me, there is definitely more chance of something being done when you contact feedback, rather than simply posting it on the forum.

For one, all feedback emails get read (which is what I got told by one of the iSketch people who reply to emails). Whether or not you get a reply, is dependent on the actual situation though, I guess. However, since this is frustrating you so much, then I really do suggest that you email feedback about it. WITH evidence, 'cause believe me, they can't act without any sort of evidence. Even if the name is anonymous, Rob (the creator) of iSketch can still have a word with all admins in general (as an example).

Also, I've known in the past that some admins use more than one name. The admin very much might be in the room (and on the list) and you're not aware of it. Also, it's not like we know the name of each and every admin, anyways.

Another also - I know it's possible for an admin to post a message about vote abuse using the name "administrator" or "admin" (whichever one that comes up. I forget :S). So basically, what I'm saying, is if for example I were an admin, I could be in the room as "MrsNerdinator" and give you an admin warning under the name "admin" (and not my actual name). Just letting you know this in case you're not aware of it. So.. feedback will know for sure who it is, if the person's name is on the list.. which is why a screenshot is so important.

By emailing feedback you're not making it into a bigger issue than it needs to be. To be honest, I feel you're probably doing that by posting on the forum instead. It's okay to rant.. but like I've said (and others have said too), feedback is definitely the way to go. Good luck with it.

Pgh Sharon
22-01-2009, 08:13 PM
LOL.... Like I have nothing better to do in my life, then to make up lies about unknown people who I will never meet personally in my life, and write to a game forum and complain.. That response just made my day. I knew by complaining that I would see a response that would make me giggle, and smile.. Thank-you for finally making me enjoy a moment of true entertainment! By the way.....I can only hope and pray, that I can sleep at nights by hoping that you would believe me... hahahahahahahha
Pgh Sharon....Snarky....

Um..... thanks for your advise, but not trying to get help..Because UM.. I know nothing will get done about it... I just had to vent. But thanks about the feedback info...wont be using it!

MrsNerdinator
22-01-2009, 08:30 PM
LOL.... Like I have nothing better to do in my life, then to make up lies about unknown people who I will never meet personally in my life, and write to a game forum and complain.. That response just made my day. I knew by complaining that I would see a response that would make me giggle, and smile.. Thank-you for finally making me enjoy a moment of true entertainment! By the way.....I can only hope and pray, that I can sleep at nights by hoping that you would believe me... hahahahahahahha.

Hmm... strange. No one even called you a liar. I stated it as a possibility when you give lack of evidence. Just like I stated that an admin could genuinely be bad in this case. But you failed to see that. Heh.

But yeah, thanks for your reply. It clarifies a lot ;)

Um..... thanks for your advise, but not trying to get help..Because UM.. I know nothing will get done about it... I just had to vent. But thanks about the feedback info...wont be using it!

How can you possibly say you know nothing will be done about it if you haven't even tried?

You don't want to use feedback 'cause you feel nothing will be done. Whereas REDwine wants this person off their back. And none of you want to write to feedback *shrug* Strange that....

REDwine
22-01-2009, 09:35 PM
none of you want to write to feedback *shrug* Strange that....

I never said I 'didnt want to". I answered your question and said I haven't gone to feedback with this.

I dont usually use isketch forums...I believe this thread may be my first time even posting in here. I thought this forum was for venting about complaints and isketch chat in general....so I didnt feel I was far off base by mentioning it here. After I noticed admins replying in here, I thought this message would be read and hopefully acknowledged to the point of this person backing off.

I do, however, want this to be over and I will get the screenshot and send it to feedback.

Tigeress
22-01-2009, 10:05 PM
There were 2 choices from you...the first of which was me lying. This is offensive to me because it is not my style...not who I am...and personally I couldn't think of anything I could gain by saying this. I am not trashing any admin in particular, there is no sabotage of any specific admin. But I promise you...there is one who is deliberately abusing their powers.

Sorry but i don't see how we can all be on your side just because you "promised".

The answer to your question about me going to 'feedback' is no I have not gone to feedback with this....I just want this person off my back, not trying to make this into a bigger issue than it needs to be...I just want it to end. I tried to blow it off the first couple times it happened but now it just won't stop...it's beyond frustrating.

You haven't been to feedback yet you "just want this person" off your back. Well the solution is to go to feedback......enough people have told you this.
If you're not gonna do it then stop complaining about it. We've told you what to do to sort it out.

Sierra
22-01-2009, 10:12 PM
Just to clarify... this forum has some members who are iSketch admins. Many of the iSketch admins are not members here and do not read this forum. The only admins posting on this forum who have any admin status here are the admins and moderators of this forum. Being an iSketch admin does not follow into this forum, we are just members here with no status over any other member unless an iSketch admin happens to be part of the team running this forum.

The members here have been trying to be helpful in suggesting feedback which is the appropriate avenue to take if there is any question about abuse of power at the game. One of you seems fine with the idea of writing to feedback while the other is responding with snide comments and laughing at the posts other members make. I personally would like to see these issues resolved but that's not going to happen if the right steps aren't taken.

REDwine
22-01-2009, 10:17 PM
Tigeress??? what is your deal?

I said I am going to feedback when I have the screenshot...I didnt say I would "NEVER" go to feedback...did u misread something?

I don't care if you believe me or not. This is a forum to vent and that is what I did.

I also got advice about dealing with it from some normal responses, unlike yours.

I learned how to do a screenshot today, had I known how to do that earlier I would have already done it and taken care of this with feedback.

Thanx for your concern Tigeress, you're a real sweetheart. :rolleyes:

Buffers
22-01-2009, 10:42 PM
I understand that this is obviously something that people can find annoying. It's hard to deal if you feel an injustice has been done. However, using a lot of bold and having a go at people isn't really helping. Glad you decided to go the feedback route once you get your screen cap/s. My only concern is that said invisible admin will have read this and will cease their activity regarding you and that any sympathy and advice that may have been given to you in this thread will now subside due to your tone.

You're doing the right thing going to feedback, I hope you get the matter resolved. I might suggest you and your friend are a bit more polite in the email you send than you have been on some occasions in this thread as a bit of charm goes a long way. Given that admin, who police iSketch free of charge and in their own time, reading feedback are not obliged to respond I feel they might be more inclined to hit delete when faced with a lot of anger, understandable or otherwise.

It might be good if you take a deep breath, calm yourselves down and take the course of action you plan to with a clear head, because if this invisible admin's goal was to wind you up/not make you look good, then they're winning. Be better than they are. :biggrin:

Peter
22-01-2009, 11:38 PM
I'll tell you what's gettting old...

...this thread!

/lol himself

Yeah but seriously, I think there are only lemons left in this fruit basket of a thread so I'm gonna close this bad boy down.

REDwine/Pgh_Sharon you are welcome to create a new thread on the matter but only if there is noteworthy progress.

Good luck with your appeal to feedback - even if you haven't got a screen shot I would consider e-mailing them now with your usernames/IPs incase they keep admin logs (I doubt they do but for the time it takes to type a quick e-mail and considering the normal response time of feedback it's not an entirely bad idea).

Sierra's posts are pure gold and everyone should rep/thank her.

Here is a picture of a Philippine Tarsier to light everyones' moods:

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