I was kicked and had my voting privilidges removed for kicking a cheater out of the room. Have sent feedback about the admin. Shall see whether anything comes of it.

I think you will find you are in the wrong thread here unless, of course, you have been banned.

Well I didn't notice a "i've been kicked for no reason" thread, so this was as good as any. Documenting the random admins of iSketch, one complaint at a time.

I was kicked and had my voting privilidges removed for kicking a cheater out of the room. Have sent feedback about the admin. Shall see whether anything comes of it.

Perhaps the person you thought was cheating wasnt after all. Indeed most often the cheating is kinda obvious, and cheaters get a kick out of cheating and making it obvious to piss people off. If this was the case, then you're at no fault.

But it also happens that sometimes a good player may look that he's cheating because of fast guesses from random poor draws and random lucky guesses like writing at the start of a draw with nothing on the canvass "man my monitor is all screwy" and the word coincidentally is "screw".

It does happen and more often than most people can guess. If this was the case your punishment was well deserved. But since we can't say what was the case, we'll leave it at that. Good luck on your quest for justice, or revenge, depending on how you look at it. Cheers.

It was definite cheating. No hints were given and the only drawing was a mass of black scribble that made everyone else guess at "anger, insane, mad, crazy" etc. You know what the word was? Smock.

Just hoping that admin will think twice before kicking people with no reason at all in future. And perhaps kick impersonators, harrasers, and racists instead. They don't seem to do very good with those more blatant things.

Just hoping that admin will think twice before kicking people with no reason at all in future. And perhaps kick impersonators, harrasers, and racists instead. They don't seem to do very good with those more blatant things.

"They"? That's a pretty bad generalisation you've stated. "they" admins, are human beings just like the rest of us (I know.. hard to believe! :razz:). Now, if the admin had kicked you out by mistake thinking that the person wasn't cheating (or whatever the reason the kick was for) then it's unfair to generalise them all as though they are doing a poor job at the game. They try their best to sort out trouble makers, etc, so long as the person is actually breaking the rules. Some may be better than others, 'cause hey, we're not all the same. There have been many, many people that I've witnessed get banned, and blocked for good reasons. *if* this was a mistake, I'd say there's no reason to get too frustrated over it. You're not banned from the game, that's the main thing. You should be back on pretty soon (if you aren't already).

Oh.. I just reread what you said and realised "they" could also be taken to mean that admin alone (sorry if that's what you actually meant). But I think the same thing applies, really. Admins (one or the lot of them) do a lot to keep the game a more pleasurable place for the lot of us. Little mistakes here and there (if that was the case) should be forgivable :)

I did mean just the admin who found it necessary to kick me and ruin my iSketch mood, but frustration led me to a poor choice of words.

Seconds before being kicked someone asked why we kicked and I said because they cheated, not "because i felt like it". Their reason for kicking me was "you too". I didn't even warrant an explanation as to why I was being kicked. Because I like to play a fair game, free from cheaters, and so do others?

When i have to play a game with someone called N*****Face who then changes their name to something very similar to mine, where is that same admin? And guess where my voting power was? An admin had maliciously taken it. Racist usernames: thumbs up; appropriately using a system setup to allow admins to not be in every room: thumbs down.

Sure, being an admin is a tough and unrewarding job, but kicking without even understanding the reasoning behind someones actions (or understanding and not caring) then you are no longer an effective admin. Someone asked why I kicked the person, I explained that they cheated and then I was kicked. Whether the admin saw that discussion or not, I dont know.

Sure, just a kick. But when you think about it, if nobody kicks up a fuss when they're just kicked, it leads the admin to believe that the kick was justified. It really wasn't and that admin should answer as to why they took the action they did. When admins believe they don't have to answer then they will do what they like and will make the experience bad for more users than just me. I hope that's not the case here, but I at least hope I make them justify their actions to a "higher-up" and it makes them re-think their (that one admin's) attitude a little.

I know a lot of admins - they're not all perfect and they do make mistakes but the best ones will always apologise for it. I was in a room the other day when an admin kicked a player by mistake, she was mortified and asked me to apologise on her behalf if the player didn't return while she was there but fortunately he came back in time, and she said sorry in public. I think that was admirable, all kudos to her.

Yes, there are admins who kick in haste - perhaps they shouldn't, but they may be the only admin online with a lot of votes going on, a lot of pressure, people screaming rude names at them, others PMing them with abuse... it can't be easy. And some have less experience than others, they all have to learn. While it's not nice to be kicked, when push comes to shove it's not the end of the world - and you don't seem to have been blocked so take a deep breath and get over it. You've written to Feedback, now it's down to them. You had no need to say anything at all here, it achieves nothing and just irritates admins who do their best to help players.

As for one admin in every room... LOL, in your dreams. There were 335 rooms when I checked five minutes ago, and to the best of my knowledge there aren't 335 admins, so having one per room 24 hours a day isn't going to happen.

As for N*****face and his/her racist friends? Such names are deeply offensive to me, I find them to be extraordinarily rude to other players, and I say precisely that in the chat box before exercising my right foot. Admins have to do what Rob tells them, I don't, so if it's wrong, sue me.

Actually there's plenty of point in posting here. What's the bet I never get a reply from feedback? Posting here is my way of telling others what goes on on iSketch (on an iSketch forum, imagine that, and in a thread about banning! :O). I know admins have to put up with a lot, but kicking users who use the kick tool responsibly is no way of dealing with that.

As for "admin in every room" I never said that. What I said was "appropriately using a system setup to allow admins to not be in every room: thumbs down". Maybe I meant set-up, but what I was saying was "Kicked cause I used the tools available to users to admin their own game" i.e. using kick to get rid of a cheater. What's the point in having a kick tool if when you actually kick someone you get an admin come in and smack you on the nose for doing so?

I admin on a busy CS: Source server. I get ♥♥♥♥ all the time about how I should do this or should do that. I don't randomly kick or ban people cause it looks like someone's misbehaving. You watch, you ask other admins, you record, you get what you need to make a decision. You do not just come in all guns blazing unless the situation is so clear-cut (aimbot) that it's safe to do so.

My intention is not to ♥♥♥♥-stir, but to tell others that they're not the only ones who suffer under admin haste, and to highlight the uselessness of a voting system if we're all too scared to actually use it, should said hasty admin decide that the cheater/racist/harraser is the one who should be protected from the nasty people who actually want to play a fair, fun game.

I'm not angry at this admin, whoever it was (think I know the name, but I would not post that publicly ever), but an explanation would be nice.

They should be accountable. I got kicked. How many get banned because an admin simply doesn't understand what's going on and decides to get the banstick out?

Dude, just an idea, but I think you should relax a little on the subject now. Fair enough, you've come here and wanted to share your stories, but like I said, you're not banned, and you're able to play again, and mistakes happen. Circling your frustration isn't doing any good. It still seems like you're generalising (without clearly stating it) and even generalising one admins action to being like that all the time (or implying it) isn't fair either. Don't close the doors too much on feedback not replying.. they do majority of the time, reply to people. So just wait and see what happens :) Hopefully you'll get a reason and will feel much better by an explanation.

I also don't think it's fair to compare what you do to what the admins do. There is still a difference there. Everyone is different, and we all make mistakes on different levels. Sometimes our mistakes are yet to come in the future.. so look out :P

What's the point in having a kick tool if when you actually kick someone you get an admin come in and smack you on the nose for doing so?

Seriously.. how often does this even happen though? Yes, it happens. But the kick feature majority of the time has some very positive outcomes. So there's a big point in having it there (the game would be a mess if it wasn't there). I mean, I doubt you get kicked out by an admin each time you vote someone, right? I rest my case :)

Reeeelax and move on. Have fun on the game :D

Well earlier today in another game I saw "Kicked for rude/unrelated drawings" on a user who had just drawn a rhinosorus (didn't get it, couldn't spell it then either). That was rude/unrelated? Everyone in the room was confused.

Not generalising all their actions, but when there's the random threat hanging over you that doing the right thing will be the wrong thing in the eyes of the admin, it starts to make you a little wary of doing things that actually benefit the game. That's not really a sort of feeling that should be placed with players. Sure, generalising again, but it's true. It's like the state of Britain. Nobody helps anyone cause the crim will sue you, or the police will arrest you. Much bigger issue I know, but hey.

But yeah i'm done now. Notice how my first post was just "I'll let you know what happens", other users goading me into my iSketch story of the week with their irrational trust of all admins, you see :)

Well earlier today in another game I saw "Kicked for rude/unrelated drawings" on a user who had just drawn a rhinosorus (didn't get it, couldn't spell it then either). That was rude/unrelated? Everyone in the room was confused.

How do you know if the drawing was related or not? Did you or anybody else guess rhinoceros before the kick?

How do you know if the drawing was related or not? Did you or anybody else guess rhinoceros before the kick?

It could have been completely justified, I don't know what went on, but it was another oddity. Everyone got rhinoceros (cept me, can't spell it), the round moved on to the next draw, half way through the next person's draw and the user who drew rhino was kicked for rude/unrelated drawing.

It could have been anything really, but it would have been nice if there was some sort of communication between admin and everyone who was confused.

I'm not saying the admin was wrong in this case, cause I just dont know. But it's a lack of communication between players and admin (we never even know who they are half the time) that is sometimes a bit confusing.

Like with my case. They needed to ask anyone in the room why the person was kicked, and they need not have taken any action. Anyway, as MsNerdinator pointed out, I've had my say, and shall now wait for a reply from feedback.

I'd like to set straight that I think admins on the whole do a fantastic job and I know how it can be a chore and more like work, when it should be a game, so can understand if admins sometimes get a bit annoyed and just want to sort things out ASAP and move on. But in this case I think they needed to just relax a tiny bit (my case) and think or just ask.

edit: I just got a reply from a feedback rep... just 2 blank lines, their name, and the isketch link. Hmm. Did i just mention a lack of communication :D I'll wait for a real email.

I hear ya. The kick probably came from naughty draws in another room or on a round previous to your joining.

Good luck with the feedback reply.

Sorted. Feedback sent their apologies from the admin. Seems I got caught in the crossfire between an admin and some vote-abusers that had been going from room to room.

So... not the devil after all :)

Heh, glad that's sorted! Innocent mistake, it seems. It's cool that you got an explanation :)