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23-01-2009, 08:30 PM
Okay i've been reading other coplaints that involve the same thing, so i've been wondering: 1. What constitutes as "vote abuse"?! I warned a person because they were obviously cheating [blank canvas and the word was "elephant"] and I got booted and rights taken away for a week while they let the other players cheat. An admin who wasn't even there at the time said i was voting for no reason. This happened a while ago.
This is what i want to know about: My friend was recently "unbanned" for whatever reason. Yes it WAS a perma-ban. She was able to come back. It happened one of 2 ways: Either she was using her friend's computer, or her own computer she was banned from. I don't know yet, i haven't had a chance to talk to her.
Well, she was "rebanned" for vote abuse. She voted to boot someone who was annoying her [excessive rudeness]. The admin came in and "rebanned" her. How can you get a PERMA BAN for supposed vote abuse if you hadn't been on isketch in months? of course, when i try to ask the admins aything they say 'write to feedback blaaa whatever'. So i think my other friend did already, because he had the screenshots.
Here are my other questions: 1. If she was using her friend's computer, that's a different IP and location etc. She shouldn't have been banned on 1 offense, because there was no proving that it actually was her...or is there? Can the admins see info about other players??
2. if it was her own computer..how did she get unbanned??? IT WAS PERMANENT. so why was she banned on the 1st offense if it seems like they gave her another chance??
Either way, it's not fair. How was it considered vote abuse? Even the admin who did it said "yea i think you should write to feedback about it" like he didn't agree with his own doing!
The admins say that they are too busy to 'hate' or even remeber other players. It's not true. i know an admin that remebers me and hates me. So then how could they do this? And why do they get me for any little thing i do, such as the 'vote abuse', yet they allow other players to be so rude, cheat, and write n their drawings, gang up/harass others, and boot people just because they don't like them without ever a ban???

Too bad there's only one website like isketch...it's a fun game, but it's getting ruined by all the rude players who seem to dominate, and the careless admins who abuse power. and don't suggest inklink, that thing is SH!T and it's nothing like isketch!

db1986
23-01-2009, 09:35 PM
1. What constitutes as "vote abuse"?!

In my opinion, vote abuse means to vote against someone if they are not breaking any rules.

I warned a person because they were obviously cheating [blank canvas and the word was "elephant"] and I got booted and rights taken away for a week while they let the other players cheat.

Sometimes there can be a genuine problem with the drawing such as the artist's iSketch window is not responding after initiating their draw, or it may be because some people draw with only minimal strokes. Just because you can't see the draw as a player doesn't necessarily mean that the artist is not drawing.

of course, when i try to ask the admins aything they say 'write to feedback blaaa whatever'.

That's because Feedback is the proper channel for complaints. That's why it's called feedback, for comments, queries, requests and complaints.

The admins say that they are too busy to 'hate' or even remeber other players. It's not true. i know an admin that remebers me and hates me. So then how could they do this? And why do they get me for any little thing i do, such as the 'vote abuse', yet they allow other players to be so rude, cheat, and write n their drawings, gang up/harass others, and boot people just because they don't like them without ever a ban???

Somehow I don't think admins like to ban people, just sometimes they have to because it's their job. That's why they signed up for it. Also I doubt that admins "hate" you persay. They are most probably annoyed if they think that vote abuse is going on.
If you have seen rude drawings or cheating then use your voting privileges. That's what they're there for. When a player votes against someone, the admins are informed. If you don't use it, they probably won't come.

it's a fun game, but it's getting ruined by all the rude players who seem to dominate, and the careless admins who abuse power.

I agree that it is a fun game and it should stay that way. As for the rude players, it is very difficult verging on impossible to stop them coming onto iSketch. As for those "careless" admins as you say, I find that they do their jobs properly and treat everyone fairly. Admins have to establish the situation before taking action, if it is needed.

I know I haven't answered all of your questions, but I hope that this helps. I am not an iSketch admin and I do not know their procedures. If you have a query, please use Feedback, as this is only a forum and is in no way affilated with iSketch.

storm
23-01-2009, 09:39 PM
Whoa, mate... that's emotional... take a deep breath, calm down a bit, OK? It's just a game, no need to get high blood pressure because of it.

I warned a person because they were obviously cheating [blank canvas and the word was "elephant"]

That on it's own is not really "cheating"... Cheating is when you are sharing answers. Were they? I'd suggest that you not judge on one round but watch a player over multiple rounds and if they are consistently leaving a canvas blank and someone else is consistently getting the answer then they are probably cheating.

1. What constitutes as "vote abuse"?!

If you were judging someone on one round, then I'd say that can be classified as vote abuse, because you just made a decision on one round, which is usually not enough to detect cheaters.

Well, she was "rebanned" for vote abuse. She voted to boot someone who was annoying her [excessive rudeness]. The admin came in and "rebanned" her.

Excessive rudeness is kind of tricky... in the rules it states that if a player is being excessively rude towards a particular person then that is excessive rudeness. Examples of excessive rudeness would be calling someone offensive names, and making offensive comments about a person. An example of offensive is swearing at a person. If someone has just gone 'I think you're a cow', and the person who was accussed of being a cow went, 'OMG that's excessively rude, I'mma vote you for excessive rudeness' - then that's vote abuse. Use your discretion. It's easy to call anyone and anything annoying but if it's not sensible from an outsider's perspective then it's probably not offensive enough for a vote. - IMHO.

if it was her own computer..how did she get unbanned???

The only legitimate method is to go via feedback.

She shouldn't have been banned on 1 offense, because there was no proving that it actually was her...or is there? Can the admins see info about other players??

They can see some info like IPs. I don't know exactly all the information they can see.

IT WAS PERMANENT. so why was she banned on the 1st offense if it seems like they gave her another chance??

If someone's given a 'second chance' there is probably a lower tolerance level. Maybe it was offensive enough to merit a ban.

Either way... I hope you feel better now that you have ranted...

Disclaimer: This is just what I think and I am not an iSketch admin.

Peter
23-01-2009, 09:49 PM
Noooooooooooooooooo, not another one of these threads. Read this (http://www.isketchforum.net/its-getting-old-t2950.html), write to feedback (they can answer your questions) and go for a walk in the nice outdoors, you'll feel better.

2.0
23-01-2009, 11:44 PM
For future reference, if "friends" actually get banned for apparently no reason:

1- If it's a friend, you have absolutely no way of knowing for sure if this was a first offense.

2- Voting on a blank canvass can be seen as vote abuse. db1986 is right, sometimes is a problem with the artist's computer,. Also, sometimes in rooms like 5 strokes where players often use 1 stroke to do entire draws and take much of the time, the drawing wouldn't appear until the player lets go of the mouse button. Those are 2 perfect examples.

3- Isketch does not unban, not to my knowledge anyway. You friend was probably playing with another computer and possibly ran into the admin that banned your friend the last time.

Admins are not evil. They're people following a set of rules.