why does it seem like all the main admins are after me, and they all hate me but love to block me? any chance they get it's an automatic block for me.
i love to draw and i love the game of isketch...but certain admins are ruining it for me..
here's what happened... i just logged on and all me friends were on so i'm like HIII! and all that. not even 2minutes after i log on, i'm blocked..no warning or anything. they dont even tell me how long i'm blocked, but likely it's for a really long time as usual. 6 hours was the last one i got, and they alwas increase it.. all just for using caps. AND IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE RULES THAT YOU CAN'T USE CAPS!!!!!! i read the rule page and didn't see it there. it's not like i've got the capslock on or anything, i just use it to express excitement every once in awhile..what's so bad about that?! sorry i'm not used to a chat room that gives you a 6 hour ban for using capital letters...so i forgot...they should have at least gave me a warning..i would have stopped :/

and that's not the only thing that's happened...

anyone wanna recommend other online games that're like isketch? :/

I'm finding it hard to believe that you'd get blocked (more than once) for no reason at all. Or even for just using caps. Okay, I've seen people get blocked for using caps before, but that was because the WHOLE room asked them politely to not use caps 'cause it's considered as 'shouting' and just looks irritating and rude, to be honest. Admins asked them nicely. Warmed them. They don't listen.. so.. blocked they got.

You've started off saying that you get blocked for no reason and then admitted something about Caps there.. so how honest are you even being about the whole thing?

If you have issues with it, then write to feedback and explain it there: info@isketch.net

And be honest about the reasons for you getting blocked, because trust me, they'll know already. I've known people to have made themselves look daft by lying to feedback in the past. Claiming they got blocked for no reasons, and duh.. it's all there. They know why. Why can't people just play by the rules, use good morals in the rooms? You'd have no reason to get blocked then, and therefore no reason to complain. It really is that simple..

On a final note, please don't generalise all "main admins".

Good luck.

Did you enter chat and go "HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! :D" or say something similar or was it a load of sentences in caps for quite a while?
Caps are a bit irritating at times as it is classed as 'shouting' but it's understandable to say something like "HIIIIIIIIIII!" out of excitement, and I know admins wouldn't block you for doing that just once. Admins do usually warn you for using caps and so do other people playing/chatting before they vote to kick. You may have not even seen someone ask in the chat box so it's a good idea to check this even if it was just the first time you used caps after entering a room.

Admins can't block you for 'no reason' or even 'personal reasons' and the same applies to this forum and usually many others.

Maybe just try and lay off the caps for a while and see what happens. Won't hurt, will it? :)

TYPING IN CAPS IS JUST LIKE SHOUTING AND SCREAMS OF WANTING PEOPLE TO NOTICE YOU, FAIR ENOUGH... some people aren't aware of 'nettiquette' and can make mistakes. I SEE YOU KNOW WHAT CAPS MEAN THOUGH, SINCE YOU USED IT IN THE SECTION YOU WANTED TO ACCENTUATE.

This is not acceptable amongst seasoned net users, which most admin are and might be seen as spam. The admin/s clearly thought they had reason to block you, and need to provide a justified reason as to why you were blocked, so perhaps a quick look at some of your behaviour might be a clue as to why you keep finding yourself blocked. Being blocked once.... maybe twice if you're VERY (see what I did there? :biggrin:) unlucky can be a simple mistake. However, many occasions of being blocked might suggest there's more to it. Reasons for blocking are usually attached to your block message, I suggest you check those, if you find no joy there, email feedback and wish, and hope, they email you back with an explanation.

it's so unfair, the admins give reasons that make no sense.. my friend was once blocked for "vote abuse" when honestly, she didn't vote anything. you all don't understand or even believe what i'm saying cos it's likely never happened to you.. but it happens to my friends and me all the time. i'm gonna message feedback, since i have screenshots of an admin abusing power...you can see them if you want, and tell me if it's worth mailing to isketch
also, i've had my voting rights taken away for warning someone who was clearly cheating...then another admin [who wasnt even there at the time] said we were abusing the vote, and my friend wasn't even with me, but the admin said she was.
and i've been muted [repeatedly] in user created room, and blocked when i left the game.. are they even allowed to do that?
i'm not a bad person[though the admins seem to think i am]..and i wasn't lying. i've never once drawn anything nasty.. i guess i'll just have to stop chatting with my friends, since that seems to be the problem :/
most of the admins i know are nice and all, some are just so strict. and then i know other ones that really do seem to hate us.. it's getting ridiculous to the point where i want to quit isketch and find some other drawing game..but i really did like isketch a lot.

Post the screenshots you have here but make sure you block out the names of any admins and/or players who are not your friends. Do that just in case the admin is present in the room but you don't know who they are but some people here might know them, in which case that would be naming and shaming an admin and a) goes against the rules of this forum, b) isn't fair and c) I forgot what I was gonna say :rolleyes:

Are you sure you're not being muted because you type really fast? If it is because you type fast then that's just to prevent flooding so maybe you should consider typing a wee bit slower.

If you are saying an admin mutes you (I can't remember if they can) did that happen in a user created room? And are you sure it was user created and not just the normal chat room?

i know who the admin was.. and likely if she's an isketch forum user and ever reads this topic, she'll know who i am too :I all the admins seem to know all about us

i don't have the screenshots on this computer, but i will post them later on. i wasn't typing fast, i was talking to the admin in a chat room, didn't say anything bad. after i left and joined a friend's room [user created], its says "You have been muted for 120 seconds by the admin!" and this happened about 10 times in like 5 minutes..yes, she was doing it that much. seem like she was just doing it for fun eh? i went back to her chat room to tell her to stop, but before i could type anything she muted me again.. so i said "keep doing that" so i could get a screen shot and she did it again after i said that. so yea, i had no choice but to leave the game because i couldn't chat with anyone or play the game or anything. and when i came back later it said i was blocked from the game.

Well, that sucks.

It seems the way you describe it >:D, that you're the target of the admin's block stick.

But I doubt they're trying to target you, their must be some reason. But I can't seem to see any reason why their blocking you.

Well, that sucks.

It seems the way you describe it >:D, that you're the target of the admin's block stick.

But I doubt they're trying to target you, their must be some reason. But I can't seem to see any reason why their blocking you.
yea.. thanks for understanding.

i admit i have broken the rules before [only minor offenses] but does that really mean they have to follow me and not give me a second chance?? i mean.. they don't even warn me anymore. and they give me super long bans for things they let others get away with. they don;t even tell me how long the ban is for, either! but i still can't log on.

i admit i have broken the rules before [only minor offenses] but does that really mean they have to follow me and not give me a second chance?? i mean.. they don't even warn me anymore. and they give me super long bans for things they let others get away with. they don;t even tell me how long the ban is for, either! but i still can't log on.

I'm sorry, but with the amount of trouble Admin's have to deal with, they simply don't have enough time for one of them to follow you around blocking you every chance they get.

i know who the admin was.. and likely if she's an isketch forum user and ever reads this topic, she'll know who i am too :I all the admins seem to know all about us

i don't have the screenshots on this computer, but i will post them later on. i wasn't typing fast, i was talking to the admin in a chat room, didn't say anything bad. after i left and joined a friend's room [user created], its says "You have been muted for 120 seconds by the admin!" and this happened about 10 times in like 5 minutes..yes, she was doing it that much. seem like she was just doing it for fun eh? i went back to her chat room to tell her to stop, but before i could type anything she muted me again.. so i said "keep doing that" so i could get a screen shot and she did it again after i said that. so yea, i had no choice but to leave the game because i couldn't chat with anyone or play the game or anything. and when i came back later it said i was blocked from the game.

Well you're still welcome to post the screenshots in order to show proof of what you're saying. I don't doubt you but if you have evidence it just makes your case stronger. Again, don't forget to block out the admin's name when posting the screenshots here but do make sure you still have the original screenshots with the Admin's name showing as proof that you didn't make up the name or anything.

It's easy for us to say "oh the admn's in the wrong" but then again we've only heard one side of the story. I think you really should try to remember all your offenses in the past and maybe think back to which admin handled the situation back then, maybe it was the same admin? Maybe you offended this admin somehow without knowing it was an admin even.
In short, nobody here can 'take sides' as the truth may have been altered by yourself or the admin and we wouldn't be any wiser. Please just try to think about all your faults thought because at the end of the day it will be your words against an admin's so you need to be completely honest no matter what.

Edit: I agree with Jobe, but admins are human so maybe the odd feelings and emotions can get in the way sometimes so it is possible to abuse their power; I'm not saying that is what's happening here as we only know one side of the story.

AND IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE RULES THAT YOU CAN'T USE CAPS!!!!!! i read the rule page and didn't see it there.

It's in the typing section (http://isketch.net/instructions/type.shtml), etiquette rule number 2.



Etiquette

People play iSketch to have a good time, not to be offended or disgusted. Use the chat box for friendly banter or to chat politely with the other people in your room.

Things NOT to do in the chat:

Flood: Repeatedly sending the same message to the chat box. It's irritating.
Use all capitals: If you've ever used any other form of Internet chat (IRC, AOL chat), you know that capitalization is usually regarded as cyber-shouting and unnecessary.
Make prejudiced comments: Don't attack people's race, religion or any other qualities.
Engage in "cybersex": The virtual equivalent of public displays of affection, only not as cute. If you find true love on iSketch, good for you; but remember: you can send private messages! Just type "/MSG username your message".

But he's gotta post those screenies! If it's been happening for only him and his friends that he knows of, They must be just hackers who hate >:D and his friends and know all their nicknames. If that's right, sooner or later an admin will ban them from the game. for hacking and being really mean.

alright i have the screenshots.....

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8x689k&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=346up6w&s=4

press alt + to zoom in
the 1st is a public chat 2nd is user created. they aren't the greatest but the admin did the mute thing about 10 times..oh btw that wasnt even me talkin about her abusing her powers in the first one, so apparently someone else had the same problem.. the only thing i said was "keep doing that.."

I thought that first screenshot was interesting because between the two mutes, I couldn't see anything that stands out as a reason to mute you that second time (in the screenshot). So yeah, from that I can see there is some sort of admin abuse with their powers. I'm not saying it about the first mute though, because I'm not sure what got said before that.

As for the second screenshot.. there were a few things that seemed unnecessary and rude, but I can't tell who is you, anyway. I have a feeling I do know who the admin is. I was once muted "just for fun" by an admin. This same admin had also muted other people that I know - for no reason, in the past. I did, however, inform an awesome admin that I know of ;P who said that the next time she does it, to screencap it.

But anyway, like AJ said.. stories get twisted and turned. Not saying that I don't believe you. Just that there are always two sides to every story. If, however, what you say is true, than that admin must be stopped. And that first screenshot really does speak for itself.. So thanks for sharing.


i admit i have broken the rules before [only minor offenses] but does that really mean they have to follow me and not give me a second chance?? i mean.. they don't even warn me anymore. and they give me super long bans for things they let others get away with. they don;t even tell me how long the ban is for, either! but i still can't log on.

I'm struggling to understand something here. You seem to be saying that you've done things in the past, but deserve a second chance. But then you've gone on to say "they ban for things they let others get away with".. so are you saying you're still doing things to get these bans then? I'm confused because at other times you're making it sound like you're getting banned just for fun or something..

Have you emailed feedback yet?

In the first screenshot, someone has said about somebody making threats to "bring down the server". Is this directed at you? If you know why the muting began, mentioning it here might help people to "understand", which you have asked people to do on numerous occasions in this thread.

But yes, as Nerdy said, it is odd that there are two mutations (definitely not the right word but I'm going to use it anyway) with no apparent violation between the two.

For the record it is entirely possible to get automatically muted for typing too quickly...

Automatic mutes come with a "Spamming detected!!!" message and are 30 seconds for quick typing or 20 seconds for repeating the same word/phrase too often in a row:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8199/spammingvh1.png

The message "you have been muted for 120 seconds by the admin" suggests intentional action by someone.

Assuming the screenshot's real; it's quite obvious it wasn't an automatic mute.

Automatic mutes come with a "Spamming detected!!!" message and are 30 seconds for quick typing or 20 seconds for repeating the same word/phrase too often in a row:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8199/spammingvh1.png

The message "you have been muted for 120 seconds by the admin" suggests intentional action by someone.

Assuming the screenshot's real; it's quite obvious it wasn't an automatic mute.

My bad :twisted:

Didn't spot that, was in a bit of a rush when I looked.

As said before, in the first screenshot it doesn't seem like there would be any reason for this user to be muted by an admin. There are, however, a few tricky parts to the picture. For one, as Fox already stated, there are some references to unseen talk about threats to bring down the server. Threats in general are thought of as mean; even if they're jokes, or empty threats, they're not a good idea anyway. It also looks like there are comments that might hint toward poking at the admin in a disrespectful way that's accusing the admin of abusing his/her powers. There are some comments that could be considered as rude, making fun, or personal attacks, scattered around in there. The only problem is that I don't know who is saying what.

The second screenshot clearly has some all-caps, disruptive and disrespectful comments in the chat. It contains some very offensive language! My only question is if iSketch rules also apply to user-created chat rooms, because as far as I have read the rules, they do not apply to user-created game rooms. The only thing is, I still can't tell who said what.

Off-topic, but while I was reading the iSketch rules again, I thought that line was funny:

The virtual equivalent of public displays of affection, only not as cute. If you find true love on iSketch, good for you; but remember: you can send private messages!

Haha. iSketch romance.... :)

Chat isn't User Created.

>:D I think blocking out all the names was a good idea but yeah, we don't know who said what. What I would be interested in knowing is what YOU said.

Note: Caps not meant in a shouty/rude way, just for emphasis because I'm replying in the quick reply bit where I cba to do italics :p

Just press Ctrl+I over what you want italicalated...


edit:
YOU
you

Hmm... I spose the italicalisation method does take a bit longer than caps.

Chat isn't User Created.
The second one is, and how can you tell?

As said before, in the first screenshot it doesn't seem like there would be any reason for this user to be muted by an admin. There are, however, a few tricky parts to the picture. For one, as Fox already stated, there are some references to unseen talk about threats to bring down the server. Threats in general are thought of as mean; even if they're jokes, or empty threats, they're not a good idea anyway. It also looks like there are comments that might hint toward poking at the admin in a disrespectful way that's accusing the admin of abusing his/her powers. There are some comments that could be considered as rude, making fun, or personal attacks, scattered around in there. The only problem is that I don't know who is saying what.

The second screenshot clearly has some all-caps, disruptive and disrespectful comments in the chat. It contains some very offensive language! My only question is if iSketch rules also apply to user-created chat rooms, because as far as I have read the rules, they do not apply to user-created game rooms. The only thing is, I still can't tell who said what.



Alright, like a said before, the only thing i said it the first one is the "keep doing that, its gold" line right before i'm muted. I didn't say anything about bringing down the server [i don't even know what that means]

the second one [again, i'm in a user created room] the only thing i said there was the few lines before i'm blocked "OMG THEY KEEP MUTING ME I CAN'T TALK etc" i really couldn't have said much else as i was being muted for several minutes straight..

I don't think >:D should've been muted in the user-created room.


The rules clearly state:

By joining a game, it is assumed that you have read and understood all rules and will abide by them. Remember, if you do not find these rules acceptable, you are still welcome to play in our custom rooms under your own rules.

What incentives do admins have to go into user-created rooms and regulate players there - given that the rules say players can do whatever they want in their own rooms.
If an admin was trying to punish >:D for something they did (before) in a game room I hardly believe that going out of their way to mute >:D in a user-created room would be appropriate - or even qualify as a consequence to breaking the rules. (Assuming that they did something so terrible the admin decided to "get" them in a user-created room.)
Seems like a no-brainer to me - given what the instructions clearly state about user-created rooms.

However, I still think ALL CAPS are annoying under any circumstance, and if you spoke in all caps and gave people trouble in a game room you'd better expect to get ignored or voted.

I'm not sure that this thread is approriate - it seems that there is an issue that needs to be resolved through feedback, rather than publicly discussed here....none of us are in a position to resolve it.
Just my opinion.

Well we're discussing "general iSketch related things"....

It reads more to me like the discussion is around one particular player having a problem that needs to be resolved, and looking for some people to agree with them that they are in the right (which they may or may not be).

I could be wrong though - I often am - just ask Mr Saff ;)

The second one is, and how can you tell?
User-created rooms have italicized text in the roomlist:

115

What incentives do admins have to go into user-created rooms and regulate players there
Admins normally don't moderate UC rooms. But without knowing about this incident, hard to classify it as 'normal' or not :-)

it seems that there is an issue that needs to be resolved through feedback
Good advice.. we can speculate on things here, but the only way to solve your problem on iSketch is to use Feedback.

User-created rooms have italicized text in the roomlist:

115


oh.. i meant how could you tell from my screenshot.

alright everyone, i'm gonna see if this admin does anything else..then if they do, i'll mail these screenshots to feedback..i'm gonna give them another chance, since they haven't been bothering me lately.
thanks for everything

i love how seriously everyone takes this free game over the internet.

If i got blocked (which I'm sure some people would love), I'd just step back, never ever think about isketch again, and err. . .get over it and move on with my life after this traumatic event.

I like iSketch quite a lot. I can't really draw properly, so this way it feels like people can appreciate my drawings, because they get points when I do it. :P

Saying that, I was away for two years or so and didn't think about it at all then.

This is supposed to be for those who find themselves in crisis when the iSketch server is temperamental or there's an update. However, I guess it applies to anyone going without iSketch and finding it difficult:

Emergency iSketch Server Status Failure - 10 point plan (http://soggypineapple.nfshost.com/forum/index.php/topic,1593.0.html).

I would have posted it here... but I cba to copy/paste, plus it has some fruity language, so be warned. :razz:

Hope it helps. :biggrin: