I was in the Tandem room, and [name removed] threw a fit over someones name. Luckily, I screened the conversation, but this is only half of it.

Sorry, the image is a little massive.

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Blocked out personal PM's.

So, what do y'all think?

You blocked out the personal PMs because they were from the guy telling you to help out to get the admin removed as if it was the plan all along.

I was there and the person went on the other account only to cause trouble under the name.

It doesn't matter what the PM's said.

The point is that it is a possible abuse of power. And besides, you weren't even there for the whole conversation. Like I said, that's only half of it. I went to screen the other half, but It was erased.

There's nothing wrong with someone being under your nickname, although it can get annoying. Administrators mustn't overreact and make their own rules. Nothing of this sort has been mentioned in iSketch instructions, and registrations are not yet available (Well, they haven't been available for YEARS now!).

ILoveMaths07.

Woooow. You've gotta be kidding.

And what did the administrator mean by 'I can boot you as a player, but not as an admin'? That sounded very contradictory to me... A boot is a boot. Being able to boot as a player and not being able to boot as an admin clearly indicates a hotly debated issue, which might reach no conclusion.

I was there LONG before you were, and saw the whole thing between the abuser and the abusee before this infraction (and your complaint) took place.

Taking someones name to play under and using it to go on only to slander the other person while they are offline are two different things.

What's the point of this thread?

If you have an issue, please send it to feedback - this forum is the not the appropriate place to air your problem with other players and/or admin.

And it also operates a strict no-naming policy.

Levesque... How do you think, breaking the rules(naming and shaming), trying to get some point across that you dont even have all the evidence for, looks? Tsk Tsk. I dont see anything wrong with what the Admin was saying and if you dont have the evidence to prove they were doing anything wrong(which this clearly doesnt) then you have dont have a leg to stand on. Apparently someone else(points to Larrys posts above) who was in the room at the time feels you may just be looking for fresh kill, instead of true concern. Its ok to air your feelings here, but you are taking it across the line.

I disagree with this being seen as power abuse.
The person who was to be booted has been a problem in tandem for a while now if you've been in there.
Also, the person whose name was stolen has been harassed constantly over the years while just trying to play the game.

I also think it's very inconsiderate and unprofessional to not block out the player's names.

Actually, that's right. Admins are allowed to boot a player if they do find something offensive about them. For example, if they find the name offensive, they can't boot as an admin, cos that's not allowed. However, they can boot as a player. I've seen this happen a few times, and the admins have explained they're not booting as an admin. Not sure why you have a problem with it, because at the end of the day, admins are also players on the game. Hence why they can do that.

What's the point of this thread?

If you have an issue, please send it to feedback - this forum is the not the appropriate place to air your problem with other players and/or admin.

And it also operates a strict no-naming policy.

Nicely said Saff. If only you were my wife, I could do with a sensible woman in the house (my mum and sister . . . let's not go there :eek: )

I have no problems with Admins..... They all just try to seduce me :razz:...Even Ches on here :biggrin:.

I don't get it! Please repost the picture with dummy names?

Java by the sounds of it I'm guessing it was pretty useless to begin with. Maybe its better off not adding the stuff back...?

For example, if they find the name offensive, they can't boot as an admin, cos that's not allowed. However, they can boot as a player. I've seen this happen a few times, and the admins have explained they're not booting as an admin.

There isn't one set of rules by which players abide and another set for the Admin. In the iSketch rules page, it states, "The rules outlined anywhere on this site are the basis for all Administrators' assistance and action in game rooms." So Admin should not differentiate between their voting as an Admin or as a player.

While it may be an annoyance, if a player uses the regular name of another, there is no rule being broken and without registrations being available, there is no way to remedy this. If the player is being abusive however, under whichever name, that is a situation where the Admin should take the action that they deem appropriate.

There isn't one set of rules by which players abide and another set for the Admin. In the iSketch rules page, it states, "The rules outlined anywhere on this site are the basis for all Administrators' assistance and action in game rooms." So Admin should not differentiate between their voting as an Admin or as a player.

Maybe I was unclear with what I meant....
Admin enters room. Admin sees offensive name. Admin can choose to vote person out of the room because the name is offensive. Admin cannot say "I'm gonna ban you cos you're name's offensive, dude" also admin cannot say "because I don't like your name I'm gonna kick you out" because three players have to vote, in total to kick this person out.

Ah, I miss that admin :/

Admin can choose to vote person out of the room because the name is offensive. Admin cannot say "I'm gonna ban you cos you're name's offensive, dude" also admin cannot say "because I don't like your name I'm gonna kick you out" because three players have to vote, in total to kick this person out.

Again it comes down to whether it is justifiable to vote a player out of the room because their name is offensive. If the Admin believes the name is causing offence, they can kick as an Admin. If an offensive name is not a kickable offence, then voting to boot, even as a player, is not justified.

Whether the Admin then decides to ban or simply to kick out is up to them.

With regards offensive names; maybe it would be an idea for Rob to specify in the terms of use that offensive names aren't allowed. That way those seeing such names would have a justifiable reason to boot, as would the Admin.

Just a thought; players have the ability to activate an offensive word filter on iSketch, would it not be possible to script the log in screen to automatically reject names that contain offensive words? Currently we can choose to have the chatbox filtered but it doesn't filter the names, so such language remains visible.

I've seen some truly questionable names on iSketch.... they usually just amuse me though because of the source they're from. The thing to remember is why would someone use that name? It's all about attention... and seeking it. That, or trying to get a rise out of someone in particular. It's silly, juvenile behaviour by some daft person who's larking about. Try not to take it personally... as there are some players with names which might be deemed offensive... who turn out to be darned good players! :smile:

Just a thought; players have the ability to activate an offensive word filter on iSketch, would it not be possible to script the log in screen to automatically reject names that contain offensive words? Currently we can choose to have the chatbox filtered but it doesn't filter the names, so such language remains visible.

I tried the offensive language filter once, it was funny. "Grass" came up as "Gr***" and "assassin" was unrecognisable! :razz: So using the current filter they have would not be effective because offensive blocks of letters would be censored.

Adding an offensive name rule is an idea but it is a very subjective topic because some words may be considered offensive in one culture but may mean something completely different and be perfectly acceptable in another. However the person's language when chatting in the room usually gives away the intention of their name.

Cap_Sparrow, I agree completely about cultural differences, but I'm hoping that names like "KillAllJ*ws" and so on would be considered offensive in any culture! It's names along those lines that I feel would benefit from a ruling. There's rude names, which are down to personal opinion whether they offend, and then there's overtly and intentionally offensive names.

With regards offensive names; maybe it would be an idea for Rob to specify in the terms of use that offensive names aren't allowed. That way those seeing such names would have a justifiable reason to boot, as would the Admin.
Right now the admins can only say to people "If you find the name offensive put the player on ignore"
I don't ignore the players for offensive names though because when you do ignore them and they really are causing trouble other people kick up a fuss so when an admin enters the room and asks what you saw, you're pretty much useless lol. It's always good to keep an eye on everyone so you can boot for real reasons. I do get how people can argue "rude names are a reason" but right now we can't boot for that.
.... names like "KillAllJ*ws" ...
/me thought that said KillAJs :cry: :/
But yeah, that comment is also very offensive.

Right now the admins can only say to people "If you find the name offensive put the player on ignore"

That surely doesn't work anyway.... can't you still see a player in the scoring list when they're on ignore? Unless they say something, ignore is pretty moot in that situation.

Oh yeah, that never occurred to me lol. I've never noticed though cos I've never put offensive names on ignore. I guess the admins would then have to say "Don't look at the score bit or cover it with a post it note" hehe

Oh yeah, that never occurred to me lol. I've never noticed though cos I've never put offensive names on ignore. I guess the admins would then have to say "Don't look at the score bit or cover it with a post it note" hehe

But then how can I be sure I'm actually losing like I should be? :twisted:

The offensive names thing has always been difficult to call. As I've said before though, because of how iSketch is, it's not really their job to make sure you're not offended. They can make sure the rules are kept to, they can help with game use issues... but what offends one doesn't another...

And yes, I think if an admin finds a name offensive on a personal level, they should be entitled to vote for that player, just as we could. They're not just admins, they're players too!

But then how can I be sure I'm actually losing like I should be? :twisted:
/me eats Buffers, problem solved me thinks
Maybe there could be a name filter. Like you know how people try and log on with the name "Admin" and it turns into er.. I forgot, never tried it myself. But yeah, maybe if someone logs on with S*** the name could be changed to "muppet" or "poopoohead" Although maybe people find poopoohead offensive too :S

If it's scripted to filter parts of nicknames it might be a problem for those joining under their football team or local area, Arsenal and S♥♥♥♥horpe spring to mind for a start.

Nobody said it was an easy idea to implement, this forum filtering that above shows it's not foolproof - though maybe some find particular Northern towns offensive lol. That's why a simpler ruling that players and Admin can refer to might be the better solution.

Personally I find such abusive names either amusing or useful, not offensive; they give us an idea as to which players to keep an eye on.

...S♥♥♥♥horpe...
Who??! O_o

Edit: I know now! :$

I saw the screenshots. Admin did not abuse their powers. Matter of fact i can't see the admin did anything at all other than just talk to an impersonator.

And what did the administrator mean by 'I can boot you as a player, but not as an admin'?

That's a misquote what the admin actually said was 'I cant vote as admin for this'.

I also agree with 2.0.

And I quote (because let's face it, how many of us have emailed feedback for an admin application):

"There may be aspects of the job that could involve setting aside your personal values (i.e., admins may not kick for "offensive" names and swearing) because it is not iSketch's concern to change people's convictions. This matter is usually deferred to the players themselves, with the BOOT function."

Never applied but thanks for the info :)

And I quote (because let's face it, how many of us have emailed feedback for an admin application):

"There may be aspects of the job that could involve setting aside your personal values (i.e., admins may not kick for "offensive" names and swearing) because it is not iSketch's concern to change people's convictions. This matter is usually deferred to the players themselves, with the BOOT function."

And what did the administrator mean by 'I can boot you as a player, but not as an admin'?

This means that though she won't use her admin powers to boot this person, but she could issue one normal of 3 normal votes require 3 kick the player out for, say, rude behaviour, such as impersonation and generally dissing people off.

* *AJ*;126180 thought that said KillAJs :cry: :/


I read it that way at first too........had to have a second look! :eek: