Ok, hi everyone, haven't been around here much, actually I just registered about 5 minutes ago.

Anyway, this is a 100% true story.

10 minutes ago I was playing iSketch, something that I don't do very often. I got the word "knob", and, portraying easily the most widely recognised use of the word, drawn a penis. The points start flying in - lots of people have got my word! I am king of the world.. BANG! My innocent genius was shattered as my drawing was deleted and my turn skipped! I stared at my screen in amazement, and tried explaining that my word was knob, but to no avail. The game continued, and I was left pointless, and ultimately bored.

My turn comes again. "Your word is: SUCK" I am told. Still seething from my past harsh treatment, I draw an obvious girl with a lollipop in her mouth, and musical notes around her mouth. "Come on, come on!!" I mutter to myself, as the random guesses fly in. Tick tock, I notice I'm on half time. Already being bottom of the board thanks to my "Knob" word, I try something desperate. Quickly and carefully erasing the lollipop, I draw a penis in the girl's mouth. The points start flying in!! I sit back and relax as my creativity expresses my word. Then.. you guessed it. GAME OVER! NO WORD! NO POINTS! I had been voted out AGAIN! I was then kicked out of the room.

So, was what I done wrong? I am very well aware it may have been against the rules, but as far as I was aware, it is encouraged by the game to use a drawing to help players guess your word. Guess both my words they did, and so it I guess I was in the right.

In future, maybe these words could simply be removed from the game. Or maybe a feature whereas when people vote to stop your word, they get to see the word, and in my case, they can see their mistakes, as I was not immaturely doodling sexual objects, merely using a technique to portray my word.

Thank you

porn is not allowed. all words can be drawn in a non -sexual manner. even I am capable of that amazing feat.just because you can draw words in a sexual matter does not mean they should be deleted from the wordlist.

im kind of confused as well. you know what you did was wrong but are confused as to why people enforced the rules? mind clarifying?

Consider yourself lucky that you were not caught by an admin and removed from the game entirely.

Yes and if you we're caught by nate your left leg would be a stub :D

I would suggest changing your name and your playing style but it's probably too late if you caught BB's attention already.

Apparantly (http://www.isketchforum.net/showpost.php?p=85850&postcount=95), it can be ok to draw like that.

now its my turn to correct you. **Apparently

who gets the last laugh now buddy? :P

/me laughs.

I do.

* nateman laughs with NoHints.

how's that? we can share it.

I was then kicked out of the room.


I would have voted to kick you out after the knob draw.


I guess I was in the right.


Nope.

In future, maybe these words could simply be removed from the game.

The words are part of the language - just because one of the definitions may be sexual, does not mean you need to use that one in your drawing.

For example:
Knob also means
--> Attached to a door as a handle.
--> a complete tosser
--> Word that can be used in the name of a town.
--> Alternate word for "knot" in reference to a bump on the head.
--> and apparently - A fourth year (freshman) Cadet at the prestigious military institute of South Carolina. Called "knob" because of their shaved head which resebles a door knob (though admittedly, that would be difficult to draw :smile:)

Also see Facey's post on page 5 on this thread http://www.isketchforum.net/if-you-banned-t1262p5.html - should the word 'mast' be removed, because somebody thinks it has a sexual reference?

Thank you
You're welcome.

one suggestion I think this thread needs is User Created rooms. If you want to draw porn, make your own room. Draw all the porn you want in there. There are two word lists directly aimed at porn, xxx and lewd. Im sure any wordlist can be used in a User Created room for porn. Anyways, keep the porn out of the public rooms, if we wanted to see it, we'd make a room for it.

i was once in a room where someone drew a penis for the word cock while an admin was in the room and when we voted to skip the draw everyone that voted got warnings and the drawing was not skipped, certainly admins and players alike could get a clearer perspective on what to do and what not to do.. dont you think?

sometimes admin can have their id in a room but may be slightly distracted. every situation has its unique set of circumstances. Every time that i've been in a room where someone draws porn, and it is apparent the admin is present physically and mentally in the room, the player is immediately kicked, blocked, or banned.

The difference is that the every time you've seen it, it's not been relevant to the word. There's a few examples where drawing like the one described at the start of this thread have been allowed by admin... I'd say the drawing for knob should be allowed, but not the one for suck.

one factor that is never discussed is discretion. that's one to think about

In future, maybe these words could simply be removed from the game. Or maybe a feature whereas when people vote to stop your word, they get to see the word, and in my case, they can see their mistakes, as I was not immaturely doodling sexual objects, merely using a technique to portray my word.
Choosing to draw a word in a sexual way is taking a risk. Firstly, you might be breaking the rules of the game: "Deliberate drawing of unrelated and/or sexually explicit/racist images". As BB mentioned, an admin could take action.

Even if the drawing is on-topic and not needlessly explicit, the other players in the room don't know your word, and may not give you the benefit of the doubt. Would you hesitate to vote if you were in their position?

Yes I would hesitate. It's quite rare for me to vote someone without being sure. Having been skipped by players because the start of my drawing looked like the letter C, and various other examples, I'd say everyone should "hesitate".

My fault for not being clear, I was referring to these particular drawings only:
portraying easily the most widely recognised use of the word, drawn a penis.
Quickly and carefully erasing the lollipop, I draw a penis in the girl's mouth.

I think if knob was allowed, then "suck" should be aswell. The rules of the game are simple- draw the word in which you see it without offending other players. Half of what makes isketch fun is the the different ways in which people interpret their words. So if one word is presented with a sexual connotation, you might as well let the rest slide. This is why the rules state that there is to be no porn drawings in public rooms. Some people may be offended, and others may simply have interpreted the wprd being drawn in a different matter (not pornographic). I don't know why it's a hard concept for people to understand, just follow the rules. :S

how is it that you interpret the wprd?

how is it that you interpret the wprd?


Sorry I didn't know wprd was part of the word list in UK or US rooms...

I think if knob was allowed, then "suck" should be aswell.

I was thinking that a picture of a lonely penis isn't particularly "sexually explicit" - which is what the what the rules say, whereas a girl with one in her mouth is.

I was thinking that a picture of a lonely penis isn't particularly "sexually explicit" - which is what the what the rules say, whereas a girl with one in her mouth is.


Ohh I understand dottie. Still may be offending.

sometimes admin can have their id in a room but may be slightly distracted. every situation has its unique set of circumstances. Every time that i've been in a room where someone draws porn, and it is apparent the admin is present physically and mentally in the room, the player is immediately kicked, blocked, or banned.

the admin kept the draw from being skipped we had like 6 votes on it

So, was what I doing wrong?

Its a sad world we are coming to be if someone cannot see why its wrong to draw sexual words for a normal everyday object such as a (door)knob or suck. If thats all you can think of is something sexual you might wanna think about getting some help. Thats not normal. Can anyone say sexual predator.

/me runs away from Tsroaqk

i was once in a room where someone drew a penis for the word cock while an admin was in the room and when we voted to skip the draw everyone that voted got warnings and the drawing was not skipped, certainly admins and players alike could get a clearer perspective on what to do and what not to do.. dont you think?

And if the Admin who was there, actually accepted that draw when people were clearly offended is outrageous. It shouldnt be acceptable at ANY time. Is this what we want our children to see?
Just like cursing, which I thought I heard in another thread is ok as long as it isnt directed at anyone, shouldnt be allowed when children come into these rooms. But no... people just cant seem to control themselves anymore and it makes it so much worse when a person who is supposed to protect us from these kind of things lashes the people who are speaking out about it and does nothing to the perpetrator. Shame on you!


porn is not allowed. all words can be drawn in a non-sexual manner...just because you can draw words in a sexual matter does not mean they should be deleted from the wordlist.

one suggestion I think this thread needs is User Created rooms. If you want to draw porn, make your own room. Draw all the porn you want in there. There are two word lists directly aimed at porn, xxx and lewd. Im sure any wordlist can be used in a User Created room for porn. Anyways, keep the porn out of the public rooms, if we wanted to see it, we'd make a room for it.

The words are part of the language - just because one of the definitions may be sexual, does not mean you need to use that one in your drawing.

HEAR HEAR!!

/me stands on a chair and claps loudly

10 minutes ago I was playing iSketch, something that I don't do very often. I got the word "knob", and, portraying easily the most widely recognised use of the word, drawn a penis. The points start flying in - lots of people have got my word! I am king of the world.. BANG! My innocent genius was shattered as my drawing was deleted and my turn skipped!

My turn comes again. "Your word is: SUCK" I am told. Still seething from my past harsh treatment, I draw an obvious girl with a lollipop in her mouth, and musical notes around her mouth. "Come on, come on!!" I mutter to myself, as the random guesses fly in.

In future, maybe these words could simply be removed from the game

You've got real sheer luck to have gotten the 'bad luck' words! :P

In the future, if you get such words like suck and you can't think of drawing anything other than porn... Or no one gets the word 'suck', skip it. Do not resort to porn drawings, and be prepared for the worse. Haha, I too hate the word 'suck' and I often choose to skip the word... but it makes me lose points... :cry:

Its a sad world we are coming to be if someone cannot see why its wrong to draw sexual words for a normal everyday object such as a (door)knob or suck. If thats all you can think of is something sexual you might wanna think about getting some help. Thats not normal. Can anyone say sexual predator.


In my experience it's more likely to be bored teenager


And if the Admin who was there, actually accepted that draw when people were clearly offended is outrageous. It shouldnt be acceptable at ANY time. Is this what we want our children to see?
Just like cursing, which I thought I heard in another thread is ok as long as it isnt directed at anyone, shouldnt be allowed when children come into these rooms. But no... people just cant seem to control themselves anymore and it makes it so much worse when a person who is supposed to protect us from these kind of things lashes the people who are speaking out about it and does nothing to the perpetrator. Shame on you!


Admins are there to uphold the game rules and can't tailor their actions to what a particular group of people may or may not find offensive. A penis for the word cock would be permitted. Sorry if this may sound harsh but the simple truth is admins are not their to babysit other peoples children. If parents let their beloved offspring wander the internet unsupervised that's their responsibility. My kids know that if I ever caught them on isketch they would be in huge trouble as I feel it's unsuitable. Swearing is not strictly against the rules but abusing other players is. Also "offensive usernames and profiles" as discussed in other threads do not break the rules. Admins aren't there "to protect you from these kind of things" we are there to uphold the game rules and assist players wherever possible.

Its a sad world we are coming to be if someone cannot see why its wrong to draw sexual words for a normal everyday object such as a (door)knob or suck. If thats all you can think of is something sexual you might wanna think about getting some help. Thats not normal. Can anyone say sexual predator.

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And if the Admin who was there, actually accepted that draw when people were clearly offended is outrageous.

I think it's a sad day that people claim to be offended and outraged by a stupid drawing of a cartoon penis. How such people cope with life is beyond me. Bored sighs and eye rolling I could understand; offense and outrage, I think not.

I think it's a sad day that people claim to be offended and outraged by a stupid drawing of a cartoon penis. How such people cope with life is beyond me. Bored sighs and eye rolling I could understand; offense and outrage, I think not.

Not that I'm an advocate of penis-drawing, but if the first time you see one represented is on iSketch and you don't have one yourself.... well... let's face it, thinking one of those will ever go near you will do wonders for the underage pregnancy statistics. I spend quite a bit of time recommending those I suspect may be drawing their own, as it were, to see a doctor as it is. :eek:

iSketch: sex education on Shockwave. :razz:

i understand that it is acceptable in the terms of the rules, but for all the people guessing know is that it could be an unrelated drawing and i thought that if people were offended by a drawing they could skip it if they want to, i for one just thought that it was unrelated like many other drawings of penis' are on isketch

Now, how does this admin thing work? does a person sit at a pc and watch over a room personally...with a big red 'ban' button under his palm? or is it a robot?

Now, how does this admin thing work? does a person sit at a pc and watch over a room personally...with a big red 'ban' button under his palm? or is it a robot?

Admins are volounteers who monitor the public rooms at isketch. None of us rush to ban anyone and most are human .... some, in fact quite a few are also female

I'm thinking sexual drawings should be treated the same as people writing personal messages on the canvas. The rules state that they aren't violations but specifically says you should refrain from using them.

Admins are volounteers who monitor the public rooms at isketch. None of us rush to ban anyone and most are human .... some, in fact quite a few are also female

Aii aii aii...I wasnt been sexist...just a 'generalisation' *his/her* happy now?

I'm thinking sexual drawings should be treated the same as people writing personal messages on the canvas. The rules state that they aren't violations but specifically says you should refrain from using them.

Hmmmm Nateman - are you reading the same instructions as everyone else?

DON'T
Let's keep it fair! If any of the following occurs, you will possibly be skipped by an administrator, or receive a kick vote from a player. If the word is too difficult, skip it; do not write the word out! Repeated attempts at violating the rules may result in a kick or permanent ban.

Improper conduct: Deliberate drawing of unrelated and/or sexually explicit/racist images; ....

Hmmmm Nateman - are you reading the same instructions as everyone else?

DON'T
Let's keep it fair! If any of the following occurs, you will possibly be skipped by an administrator, or receive a kick vote from a player. If the word is too difficult, skip it; do not write the word out! Repeated attempts at violating the rules may result in a kick or permanent ban.

Improper conduct: Deliberate drawing of unrelated and/or sexually explicit/racist images; ....


Some sexually explicit drawings are not unrelated. For example, the drawings we are talking about in this topic.

"Knob" is such an easy word, though it's tempting to want to draw something sexual, it's really un-needed.

For "suck," on the other hand, I totally feel your pain. A couple years ago, my word was "rubber". Though I now know that drawing a rubber duck usually works, I didn't at this point, as this was the first time I saw it show up in the game. I tried drawing tires and that didn't work, so I drew a penis with a condom on it. About half the room guessed it, then I was banned for a day. The message I got from the admin when I was banned was so grammatically incorrect and had such ridiculous spelling errors, that passing the screenshot around and laughing at it kept me quite e-occupied for that 24 hours.

Improper conduct: Deliberate drawing of unrelated and/or sexually explicit/racist images

For "suck," on the other hand, I totally feel your pain. A couple years ago, my word was "rubber". Though I now know that drawing a rubber duck usually works, I didn't at this point, as this was the first time I saw it show up in the game. I tried drawing tires and that didn't work, so I drew a penis with a condom on it. About half the room guessed it, then I was banned for a day. The message I got from the admin when I was banned was so grammatically incorrect and had such ridiculous spelling errors, that passing the screenshot around and laughing at it kept me quite e-occupied for that 24 hours.

For suck I would always draw a straw in a glass. For Rubber I'm taking a wild guess you were in a UK room. A rubber in the UK is what Americans call an eraser and certainly not a condom. As for the incorrect English ... did you consider the admin might be Dutch?? French ?? Spanish?? Admins are human and come in many nationalities.

Improper conduct: Deliberate drawing of unrelated and/or sexually explicit/racist images


I've been out-bolded. How embarrassing :/

Anyway, I got banned for drawing "unrelated penis drawings" as opposed to "related penis drawings" ?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5166/isketchbanroflko9.gif

And, as you linked to before, "Rob has condoned a sexually explicit clue for the word 'blow'..." So, I mean, if it's fine for blow it must be fine for a few other words.

Yeah, I realised that. Rule contradictions aren't my fault though ;)

For suck I would always draw a straw in a glass. For Rubber I'm taking a wild guess you were in a UK room. A rubber in the UK is what Americans call an eraser and certainly not a condom. As for the incorrect English ... did you consider the admin might be Dutch?? French ?? Spanish?? Admins are human and come in many nationalities.

I was in English Easy US.

If the administrator wasn't from the US, which I wouldn't doubt, then they should not have banned me because they obviously didn't understand American slang. I'm not saying my drawing should have necessarily gone un-punished, but I don't feel it was ban-worthy. If I were an admin in that situation, I'd probably just have shot a private message, saying "hey, I get that you were having trouble with the word, but please don't draw anything sexual..." or something of that sort.

I drew it because people were having trouble guessing it, I did not draw it with malicious intent.

If you want to be unbanned there's only one person to call. Best of luck with that LOL

And, as you linked to before, "Rob has condoned a sexually explicit clue for the word 'blow'..." So, I mean, if it's fine for blow it must be fine for a few other words.
By the way, that quote was a reference to another older post (probably 2006) that doesn't exist anymore, so I don't know what the original context of that statement was. Also, the iSketch rules may have changed since then - best to go by the official version:

http://www.isketch.net/instructions/index.shtml