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Vik
02-07-2007, 10:28 PM
So! Here is a completely new idea that hasn't been tried before! Let's have a poll about the thank-you button!

The original discussion can be found here (http://www.isketchforum.net/thank-you-appreciation-t1756.html), if you're not familiar with the idea.

storm
02-07-2007, 10:36 PM
Vik, I'm really sorry to be so annoying :sad: but which one is the option that means:

I want a thank you button; but anonymously and privately (e.g. poster gets PM saying "Someone has thanked you for your post!")

Thank you.

Bad_MaNneR$
03-07-2007, 12:41 AM
Or how about the recipient gets to see who thanked them and everyone else gets to see that a thankyou has been done - but not who hit the button.

gracie
03-07-2007, 03:22 AM
i don't mind whether we end up having a thank-you button or not. i think it's a nice idea.

on one hand, i'd like it to be anonymous. i wouldn't want people whispering things like "wow, of course she gives the thank-you to a person she likes," or "what the heck. that doesn't deserve one. what kind of idiot is she?"

on the other hand - if it's anonymous, it can sort of become a popularity contest. (yeah, yeah, some of these points have been raised. i can't believe how much i missed. i mean. a weekend. geez.) some people wouldn't care, obviously, but others would, and might get their friends to repeatedly press the button on all of their posts.

i'd still rather that they be anonymous, though. maybe there should be a limit on the amount of thank-you thingies you can do per day? that's how it works on some other forums.

Vik
03-07-2007, 08:31 AM
Vik, I'm really sorry to be so annoying :sad: but which one is the option that means:

I want a thank you button; but anonymously and privately (e.g. poster gets PM saying "Someone has thanked you for your post!")

Thank you.


Don't be sorry! That option isn't really there, to be honest. hmm.. The trouble is, there are more than 6 actual options. I think there is a way of adding another option - I will do this and add 1 vote to it for you, if you have already voted elsewhere.

Terribly sorry for the confusion this poll has brought - there are too many possibilities involved!


BM - same applies to your option, I have added it as a separate option.


If anyone would like to change their vote, let me know what you voted for, and what you now want to vote for, and I wil do it for you.


EDIT: I think in the end it will come down to what the forum can actually do! We might not be able to be so fussy as to specify exactly how we want the button to be.

Facey
03-07-2007, 12:42 PM
You forgot to add the option where we can vote as many times as we like :twisted:

I love these polls, makes for very interesting reading without alot of fluff.

storm
03-07-2007, 01:28 PM
Thank you, Vik! I assume you've added my vote for me - thanks for that, too! :biggrin:

Just out of curiousity... what is the difference between:

"I'd love a thank you button, but I don't want other people to see I pressed it!"

and

"Let's have the button, but only have it show a post has been thanked - no numbers or names involved."

Facey
03-07-2007, 01:33 PM
if it's the first option, it wouldn't show to anyone that it had been pressed, maybe just to the mods.

The second would show no figures or details but just that it had been thanked to everyone.

Someone correct me though.

kisskiss
03-07-2007, 05:40 PM
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

Oh I'm too late or is it just me that can't vote?

Edit: actually it let me vote after I submitted my post! so ty x

Vik you missed out an 'all of the above' option :biggrin:

Peter
03-07-2007, 09:24 PM
The nearest thing I could get to a thankyou button is the reputation system. The only reasons I haven't installed this before is because some forums end up having to take it away because people abuse it. I guess I could always disable negative reputation.

When you leave rep you can leave a message and it will go to the persons User CP. Accumulating rep causes you to gain little green boxes by your name. The more reputation you have the more the reputation you give is worth.

After the result of the poll I can put it on trial for, say, a month then we can hold another poll to see if people want it to stay. Sound good?

TempusFugit
03-07-2007, 09:26 PM
Sounds wonderful :razz:

Facey
03-07-2007, 09:28 PM
THat sounds good to me Peter :biggrin: I like the idea of disabling the negs, that would stop it being abused too.

storm
03-07-2007, 09:29 PM
The nearest thing I could get to a thankyou button is the reputation system. The only reasons I haven't installed this before is because some forums end up having to take it away because people abuse it. I guess I could always disable negative reputation.

When you leave rep you can leave a message and it will go to the persons User CP. Accumulating rep causes you to gain little green boxes by your name. The more reputation you have the more the reputation you give is worth.

After the result of the poll I can put it on trial for, say, a month then we can hold another poll to see if people want it to stay. Sound good?

oooh...it sounds risky too me. It makes some people 'worth' more than others, no?

However, this is just me and putting it on trial for a month and having another poll to see if people want it still /is/ probably the best way of seeing how people will treat it.

TempusFugit
03-07-2007, 09:30 PM
oooh...it sounds risky too me. It makes some people 'worth' more than others, no?

However, this is just me and putting it on trial for a month and having another poll to see if people want it still /is/ probably the best way of seeing how people will treat it.

I don't think it makes people 'worth' anymore than they are already :biggrin: It's just the forum's universal language of saying 'thanks' - surely?

jewels
03-07-2007, 09:32 PM
Accumulating rep causes you to gain little green boxes by your name.

Green not Pink :cry:

cheers Peter , sounds great. :razz:

edit, hadn't see all of the above posts, I don't think it's judging people personally, just their posts. (but I see where you're coming from)

Facey
03-07-2007, 09:33 PM
I don't think it makes people 'worth' anymore than they are already :biggrin: It's just the forum's universal language of saying 'thanks' - surely?
/me grudgingly mumbles in agreement with the winged thing.

If yo look at the poll, most people who want it, want it to be anonn. but it's spread arond too so I think this is a happy medium for everyone.

Having the neg enabled would be disaster though but it's not going to be :)

MsNerdinator
03-07-2007, 09:33 PM
After the result of the poll I can put it on trial for, say, a month then we can hold another poll to see if people want it to stay. Sound good?

Sounds good to me, Peter. I think it's worth the trial if the poll shows a general positive view towards the feature. And it's a huge plus that any personal messags go to the User's CP, as most members so far have viewed interests in it not being shown publicly.

oooh...it sounds risky too me. It makes some people 'worth' more than others, no?

Yeah, I know that's something that some people have expressed a dislike to. With a poll now, and then a trial, and then another poll, I'd say that's our best shot in seeing if this is something we want to keep. Good idea, Peter.

TempusFugit
03-07-2007, 09:34 PM
Damn shame the negative one's will be disabled.

/me sneers at Faceache :razz:

Facey
03-07-2007, 09:36 PM
Damn shame the negative one's will be disabled.

* TempusFugit;89563 sneers at Faceache :razz:
It'd be a shame to see your figures go into the red TF...

storm
03-07-2007, 09:45 PM
I don't think it makes people 'worth' anymore than they are already :biggrin: It's just the forum's universal language of saying 'thanks' - surely?

Heya TF, I was only referring to this little section in the system:


The more reputation you have the more the reputation you give is worth.


I just have reservations about some people's opinions being more important than others. I like to form my own opinions of people and personally, I know that if I see that someone is considered to be wonderful, that I will think twice about disagreeing with them - and as sure as I am that people will earn their reputation, I do like to be unbiased when I first meet/see someone.

Make sense what I'm trying to say? =)

Facey
03-07-2007, 09:51 PM
TF knows all about making good impressions :twisted:

On a serious note. DO we have figuires to when these things would show up?

TempusFugit
03-07-2007, 10:03 PM
Heya TF, I was only referring to this little section in the system:



I just have reservations about some people's opinions being more important than others. I like to form my own opinions of people and personally, I know that if I see that someone is considered to be wonderful, that I will think twice about disagreeing with them - and as sure as I am that people will earn their reputation, I do like to be unbiased when I first meet/see someone.

Make sense what I'm trying to say? =)

Ahhhh... I see what you mean now! My apologies!!! Of course - it is dependent on how the forum 'sell' it! I have to agree then - as it shouldn't be about 'worth' - but going back to what I was saying before - it should be about 'thanks'


Facey - my darling... everyone knows that your continued naughtiness to me is really because you quite fancy me. :razz:

Peter
03-07-2007, 10:12 PM
But if you think about it they're only 'worth' more because people have given them rep initially. It is one of the problems with the system though and why I've avoided enabling it but I think a trial is reasonable way to see how it would pan out.

Another problem is I've seen peoples' egos get boosted on other forums because of it, they start behaving like they are better than everyone else though. I'm not saying it's have the same affect on anyone here and, trueth be told I don't think it would. It's just another possible negative effect of the system.

Unfortunatly it's the closest thing to a thankyou button.

I'll have a look to see if there is a way to disable the 'worth more' bit, don't get your hopes up though!

Facey
03-07-2007, 10:15 PM
Honestly, if you look at the poll results, it's a happy medium Peter.

I'd like to stick to your suggestion of trying it for a month (with the negative disabled) and if it's going to pot, at least we tried it and you can turn it off.

Tf hun, you're only kidding yourself.
/me teaches TF the meaning of the word 'humble'

Vik
04-07-2007, 10:58 AM
I think it's worth a try. We don't have to keep it forever! Thanks Peter :)

kisskiss
04-07-2007, 12:15 PM
Well done Vik, good idea and well executed xxx

MsNerdinator
04-07-2007, 12:17 PM
Oh, it's been put into place? I was wondering what that green box to the right of my name was. Hmm.. that's a lot of green on my profile now XD

I'm looking forward to seeing how this system plays out. Thanks Peter!

Facey
04-07-2007, 12:21 PM
Yeah, what do the different coloured boxes mean?

Bad_MaNneR$
04-07-2007, 03:12 PM
Yeah, what do the different coloured boxes mean?

ZACKLY! Someone point me at the post that tells me please.

Facey
04-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Since nothing much more has been said on how the system works Ill explain a little bit more.



The system basically works on points and rep power, by default forum admins have a fuxed reputation poer where as regular users and moderators power is dependant on a few factors.



The reputation power is how many points you can add to someone elses reputation. The power is dependant on a few factors including post count, reputation points (not power) and how long you have been a member. So to sum that up your reputation power ISNT the same as your reputation points and is generally lower.



The more posts you have, the more points you have and the longer you have been registered, the higher your power is and therefore the more points you can give to other members.



The green blocks ( and ) as far as I know represent 100 reputation points each possibly more once you get over 500 points and they then become a brighter green for the second group of green blocks and the brighter green blocks are per 200 points after the first 500 points. You wont see many of those til the system has been in use for some time though.



Grey blocks like mean you have exactly 0 reputation points and dark blue blocks like mean the user has disabled showing their reputation.



I wont go into details about the negative side of reputation as that is disabled for regular users.



If anyone else has any questions feel free to ask.


In this thread BM:
http://www.isketchforum.net/thankyou-button-k-t1788.html

Jobe
04-07-2007, 03:46 PM
Must admit, one thing which I know is possible that I wouldnt mind being able to see is "who" left you reputation, you can see what reputation youve been left, for what post and what message, but not who left it.

Reson I say that is because on thing I used to do on another vBulletin based forum was list all the people who left me possitive or neutral reputation in my signature as a thank you.

Facey
04-07-2007, 03:47 PM
That's how I've seen it in action Jobe.

I guess that you could put your name in the comments box. That makes it optional for those who don't want anyone to see.

what do you think?

Ches
04-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Must admit, one thing which I know is possible that I wouldnt mind being able to see is "who" left you reputation, you can see what reputation youve been left, for what post and what message, but not who left it.

Reson I say that is because on thing I used to do on another vBulletin based forum was list all the people who left me possitive or neutral reputation in my signature as a thank you.

People might then thank you just to get in the list. And if you could see who had thanked you, some might feel obligated to thank them to keep things 'fair'.


If anyone does want to remove the anonymity of thanking, you can always put your name at the end :)

Jobe
04-07-2007, 03:53 PM
People might then thank you just to get in the list. And if you could see who had thanked you, some might feel obligated to thank them to keep things 'fair'.


If anyone does want to remove the anonymity of thanking, you can always put your name at the end :)

When I did that I did have a disclaimer stating that if it is believed they repped me just to get their name in the signature it wouldnt be added, and also gave users the option of having their name removed if they send me a PM too. So I was pretty strict about that, but I would be nice to be able to send someone a thank you PM anyway. :)

storm
21-02-2008, 12:17 PM
How does everyone think the new thank you system is panning out?

I think it's okayyy...but I really didn't like that my name would show up on the list of who's thanked...so I didn't thank for a while, and then the tourny came about and Dean put a lot of effort into it, and although I've thanked him privately, I was like, okay this post (http://www.isketchforum.net/showpost.php?p=109818&postcount=1) deserves a nice list of thankyous beneath it (and 2.0's post on the new PM rule (http://www.isketchforum.net/showpost.php?p=114496&postcount=1)). So I only thanked so the list would grow longer... which is probably not the point of thanking, but :rolleyes: I don't feel very comfortable with my name there. Call me weird. :razz:

Edit: I've also noticed that the rep button is still there, and I don't know if any one still uses it, but it's become redundant for me... I now thank less and rep less :eek:

2.0
21-02-2008, 12:44 PM
Agreed. I don't like my name showing up for everybody to see. I don't mind the receiving party seeing it, but it makes it kind of embarrasing knowing everybody can see how many people thanked me for that post.

Also there's the issue of having 2 systems. Well, i guess it's a benefit come to think of it (wouldnt want to contradict myself there lol). If you use the thumbs up next to the report triangle on the top right of each post, the thanks go annonimously (and as a bonus you can leave a comment as well). If you use TY on the bottom right, then it shows up for everyone to see.

If you'd like to keep it private but let the thanked know it was you, just type your comment on the comment box that appears when hitting the thumbs up symbol on the top right and sign your name with your comment.

Furthermore, bear in mind that you can always remove your thanks given with the TY button and subsequently thank privately with the thumbs up. I think that's rather nice, i'm liking the variety in choices.

*AJ*
21-02-2008, 03:25 PM
Furthermore, bear in mind that you can always remove your thanks given with the TY button and subsequently thank privately with the thumbs up. I think that's rather nice, i'm liking the variety in choices.O rly? Right, I'm gonna thank you using the TY button then I'm gonna try and remove it just to see if it works. I assume that's what you mean...

Please note, if I can't get rid of the Thank you at the bottom of the post then I take my thanks back :twisted:

/me tries it out
Edit: Oh yeah, duh, I never noticed that, thanks! :D p.s you can keep the thank you cos I feel like I learnt something new today, sensei :razz:

2.0
21-02-2008, 03:40 PM
Oh, and the annonymous (thumbs up) rep button is permanent. No way to undo that one.

*AJ*
21-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Lol, I knew that; I found that out the hard way :embarrassed:

Edit: wait, that makes me sound like I was trying to take a thank you back! What I mean is I accidentally thanked someone and the post was just a regular post...

Charlotte!
22-02-2008, 02:11 PM
Am gonna keep my vote an anoyomous one... ;)

storm
22-02-2008, 07:20 PM
Am gonna keep my vote an anoyomous one... ;)

I didn't make a poll. The poll above is an old one that someone made /before/ the thank you system was implemented.

I was asking what people think about it, now that we have it. Has it changed anything?

storm
07-03-2008, 11:30 PM
Is it just me or do TY-button-thanked posts now show up in the rep-button-thank-you tracker?

2.0
07-03-2008, 11:47 PM
both systems appear there now, it's all mixed, dunno how

NoHints
08-03-2008, 01:26 AM
Didn't they always show up there?

If not, it's been like that for a while.

(I'm assuming you're talking about the part in UCP)

storm
08-03-2008, 08:24 AM
Yeah. Didn't notice both thanks's came up in the tracker. Do they both count for rep points, do you think? (Not that I care for rep points. I'm just curious)

2.0
10-03-2008, 02:44 AM
From what i read of the thank you systems when they got installed (i used to read the VB forum way back when), only the thumbs up thank yous count towards rep and the emeralds. Kinda confusing...