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marco
23-08-2009, 01:19 PM
Many kids log onto isketch. The site description says "a site for all ages" . But does that include the open sex chat rooms?

When I contacted addictinggames.com they agreed about my concerns. When you log onto the site, there is a agreement for publishers of websites and specific terms. Also, you must be a minimum age of 13 years to register on there because for them it is required by law.

Addicting games therefore invtesigated the sex rooms on iSketch and came to the conclusion that it was harmful to have iSketch advertised as a third party website.

So why are there sex rooms on iSketch? The site is aimed for a picionary style game, but I don't recall sexual activity as part of Habros' marketing strategy.

If the site is considered to be successful, why would the owner takes steps to ensure that sex rooms stay?

I feel strongly about paedophilia and abuse of young children on-line so I feel glad addicting games agreed with me.

How do you feel?

JASR
23-08-2009, 01:39 PM
Many kids log onto isketch.
Perhaps their parents/guardians need to better educate their kids.

The site description says "a site for all ages" . But does that include the open sex chat rooms?
Whatever floats your boat. If they aren't harming people, then what's the problem?

When I contacted addictinggames.com they agreed about my concerns.
After, in my knowledge, 7+ years of the same situation, and I think, when addictinggames 1st linked it was the same...

When you log onto the site, there is a agreement for publishers of websites and specific terms. Also, you must be a minimum age of 13 years to register on there because for them it is required by law.
Fair enough, but can't quite see 99% of all the millions of other websites in the world all doing that. I can land on a random isketchforum's page from a google web search, and I don't get told about age 13 restrictions as I read... perhaps we should close .net ?

Addicting games therefore invtesigated the sex rooms on iSketch and came to the conclusion that it broke their terms of service.
Fair enough, strange it took them 7+ years.

So why are there sex rooms on iSketch? The site is aimed for a picionary style game, but I don't recall sexual activity as part of Habros' marketing strategy.
The site can be whatever Rob decides it to be. Haven't seen Pictionary (sp) introduce Acrobot, virtual chat, world encompassing, multi language, emotes, different styles of game etc , in any cardboard box at Toys R Us recently.

If the site is considered to be successful, why would the owner takes steps to ensure that sex rooms stay?
The site can be whatever Rob decides it to be.

I feel strongly about paedophilia and abuse of young children on-line so I feel glad addicting games agreed with me.
Closing down Myspace, Facebook etc would be a better way of stopping online grooming. Educating people before they go online would be a better way. Ensuring children are supervised online by their parents/guardians would be a better way. Taking responsibility for yourself and your actions and the actions of whomever you are nominally in charge of (kids) would be a better way.

How do you feel?
:twisted:

Fox
23-08-2009, 01:49 PM
"The owner" hasn't take any steps, as far as I am where, to ensure that cyber-sex chat rooms remain open. He may not have taken measure to ban them, but he doesn't put them in place; they are all User Created rooms. Basically, it's just what people have chosen to talk about, and it's done all nicely tucked away in a room.

If somebody doesn't wish to enter said rooms, then they don't have to, at all. Unless you choose to enter them, all you see is the name, and I don't think that "GAY/BI CHAT!!!!!!!!" is going to scar anybody too badly.

About paedophilia and the abuse of young children... I don't really know how this comes into it. There's no reason that there'd be more grooming and that on iSketch than on anywhere else that people can communicate online.

I don't like saying "it's the responsibility of the parents", but it sort of is. There are MUCH worse things to see on the internet though, and if kids come across things which were put in place for adults then you can't say "get rid of it, a child could see it"... that would sort of lead to censorship of everything.

OH, I should just add, too... that if anyone coming from Addicting Games has to be over 13 anyway... then surely they're old enough to be responsible for their OWN actions? Going into a cyber-sex chat room and then complaining about the cyber-sex chat inside? What would the person expect?

As an additional aside... if Addicting Games is continuing to direct children onto this website which they've said is harmful for kids... then I don't think that you should be blaming the CLIFF, instead you should blame the man shouting "OI! You! JUMP OFF THIS CLIFF!".

Medea.
23-08-2009, 01:51 PM
If they banned sex chat rooms, then these people might look for 'fun' in the regular game rooms >< It might not be 100 percent law abiding or ethically correct but if they're not harming anyone else, then I don't have a problem with it. Then again, I hate to think about what happens to the young and vulnerable who end up in there :sad: But all in all, like others have said, the internet is full of pornographic, sexually explicit content and iSk is just a small blimp on the radar in comparison. Yes it is and should be a gaming site first and foremost, so for that reason I say ban it. But more importantly, parents should really monitor and educate their kids about the internet before just letting them run riot :eek:

Okay that kinda went around in a circle.. but it made sense to me! XD

EDIT: Alsooooo the fact that the site is meant for and used by all ages, kinda suggests that it does need some level of censorship :\ I use the site purely for the game (and the good company:) ) and it's easy enough for me to ignore these rooms.. not sure if it's quite so easy for a curious child. -__-

Sorsie
23-08-2009, 02:03 PM
Yes, Just look at what happened to db when he strayed into one...

He was never the same.

Fox
23-08-2009, 02:27 PM
Hurrrrr. Aww, he managed to convince you that he just "strayed into one", did he? :):) hehe.

gt7278
23-08-2009, 03:51 PM
Well I kind of doubt addicting games would take issue with iSketch having cyber rooms because they've always been there and I just went onto addictinggames.com and they have a whole section of games under the category "Naughty" though iSketch was not one of them...

As for the cyber rooms themselves, they're not the most pleasant of things but some of them are ironically named and if a child knows basic internet sensibilities then they should be ok. Getting rid of these rooms would just move any um potentially creepy people into other areas of the game where they would be more harmful? At least now it's largely all in one easily avoided place.

2.0
23-08-2009, 06:01 PM
The service is free and pretty much annonimous, the owner of the site is free to do whatever he wants with his site. Since isketch is a game directed at adults and not children, i agree with JASR, it's up to parents to take steps to prevent their children from seeing anything they deem unfit for their children to see.

And if addictinggames wants to remove it from their listing... i hardly think that'll be of any consequence.

Jobe
23-08-2009, 09:21 PM
And just to add to all this, if I am not very much mistaken, iSketch was and always has been intended for adults, not for minors. At least this is what I have always been told by many an Admin over the years.

Mato
23-08-2009, 09:27 PM
And just to add to all this, if I am not very much mistaken, iSketch was and always has been intended for adults, not for minors. At least this is what I have always been told by many an Admin over the years.

That's fair enough if it is, but then surely the description "a site for all ages" isn't exactly accurate. Is this a quote taken from the iSketch site or from addictinggames?

db1986
23-08-2009, 10:32 PM
Yes, Just look at what happened to db when he strayed into one...

He was never the same.

Um... I never recall ever going near a cyber room. OK, maybe I recommend it to people saying "asl?", people who talk in "cyber-talk" or people posting their email addresses into the public chat box, but I have never been in a cyber room myself.

Anyway, the way I think of "sex rooms" on iSketch is that it lies with Rob what he wants to do. To be fair, anyone could lie about their age on the Internet and can get relatively easy access to many types of chat room, cyber room or sexual-related material.

I would agree with a few people here in saying that parents should teach their children about such things being readily accessible on the Internet. If minors are old enough to ask, they are old enough to know.

Dean
24-08-2009, 01:47 AM
Oh no! Don't remove teh Lewd list!..
wait. it is better off further down the list, creeps will be creeps and it will be somewhere, just keep it away from the actual game rooms which I assume most people come here for. You can't police everything, as a few have said its up to the parent and individual.

spectre
24-08-2009, 06:05 AM
i used to play iSketch when I was younger (around 12) and managed to stay away from the pedophilic (i know that's not technically a word), chastity-threatening gameplay - in fact i don't think i even noticed it to tell you the truth.


If the site is considered to be successful, why would the owner takes steps to ensure that sex rooms stay?

are you sure that success isn't due in part to these lewd rooms and the option to play or not play in them? one of the best parts about iSketch is the freedom you have to manipulate the game. User-created rooms are fantastic! If you don't like the rooms, you don't have to play in them, that's the beauty of iSketch, and part of why it's successful - options!

it is better off further down the list, creeps will be creeps and it will be somewhere, just keep it away from the actual game rooms

yeah. a separate tab perhaps (where it's like, english, french, special, etc.)? "adult" "creepy" "lewd" "xxx" "not for kids".. you get the point

Sorsie
24-08-2009, 07:32 AM
Hmm. I'm just happy that the other rooms are at the bottom as you just don't really notice them until you start really playing the game. :) It's nice to have the option to play the lewd list etc, or just to spring it on an unsuspecting jen... >:D Ahah.

Well I think that they have done quite a lot, as the rudest their list goes doesn't even mention anything um bad really. It's all quite under the low. :) And well I'm just glad there are areas where they lay, because otherwise we'd get more penis drawers in easy and there wouldn't be enough admins to cover the overload.

P.s. Db. I know you've been in them because you sent me an invite from there. You were under a different name.. TRY AND TAKE THE SORSIE NAME DOWN >.> BUT YOU WERE THERE... And you were trying to tempt poor unsuspecting victims in. :'(((((

m2g
24-08-2009, 09:25 AM
And if addictinggames wants to remove it from their listing... i hardly think that'll be of any consequence.

You could be wrong there 2.0, if addictinggames did happen to remove the listing after all this time, which seems rather unlikely, it might remove some of the kids who come to the site and complain about the adult content!!

Somehow I don't think the sex chat rooms on sketch contribute greatly to the damage done to children on the internet, and as has been mentioned before, PARENTS SHOULD WATCH WHAT THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN ARE DOING ONLINE, SHOULD BE WITH THEM, ABSOLUTELY NO CHILD SHOULD BE LEFT WITH A COMPUTER AS ITS CHILDMINDER!!!!!

Jobe
24-08-2009, 11:47 AM
That's fair enough if it is, but then surely the description "a site for all ages" isn't exactly accurate. Is this a quote taken from the iSketch site or from addictinggames?

As I already said, it was from conversations with admins ON iSketch, not sure if that view has changed or not since then though, it has been a few years since then.

Not sure where you got the "a site for all ages" description from because it's not one I've ever seen.

MrsNerdinator
24-08-2009, 01:07 PM
I haven't read the thread yet, so sorry if anything I say has already been said. The way I see it, I'd prefer those sort of rooms aren't on iSketch, anyway.

BUTTTT, in my opinion, I'd rather those freaks/creeps stay in their own little room at the bottom of the rooms lists, 'cause if that was completely forbidden and stopped.. I'd suspect that you'd get FAR MORE people coming into games rooms at the top (and other rooms, of course) wanting to cyber... which of course would cause far more problems. More players would be booting people out of rooms, and generally the atmosphere in rooms would be worse. Just more work for the admins, especially - when they could be spending their time attending to booting/banning cheats, rule breakers, etc (which is far more important)

So in reality, I think it's more of a plus to allow them to have their own little room when they make it. And maybe that's why Rob has had to allow it to take place in its own little room/s? It's not that he necessarily likes having them? Just a thought.

jenni939706
24-08-2009, 01:38 PM
/me twirls
hmmmmm. lol, i started on isk when i was a littleone ;) still am called one -_- butttttttt i think. the rooms are fineeeeeeee... i remember i popped into one for a min :0 (a friend was there. shush.noaskyplz.) they were all quite silent and nothing much was happening -_- cept i got pmed for asl every other min.... but otherwise i saw nothing :0 worthy :)

besidesssss its better if they have their own little place instead of messing up the game for everyone elsewhereeeeeeeee... its easier to tell someone to go to a cyber room then try to get them kicked out of a room for innappropriate drawings and whatnot.

and. at least the rooms are at the bottom, they're not like..the first thing u see when u log on :)

/me runs off

*AJ*
24-08-2009, 03:35 PM
I've only read through a few of the posts here. I agree with some people yes they should be allowed so cyber lovers stay in their designated areas and don't bother others, even though I'm not keen on the idea. It's not like it bothers me when I'm playing a game so I'm not fussed about it existing.

As for teens and kids underage going into cyber rooms, I don't think it could be helped. Even if iSketch didn't exist where would these underage kids be? They'd probably google "chat rooms" and pick from a range of selections.

I've seen chat rooms with no age limit and if they do have an age limit, there is nothing to prove someone's age and there's no-one 'at the door' checking ID and making sure everyone's telling the truth.

In some ways I think yeah, maybe the cyber room on iSketch IS in actual fact a safer place for kids to get their um.. kicks from. When you think about it, which site will have more traffic, iSketch or the world's largest chat room site? Obviously the latter. iSketch being far smaller in comparison to chat rooms means the chances of paedophiles existing are slightly smaller, most of the people in the chat room are genuinely just a bit horny and young teens who want a few moments of "fun".

iSketch can't be blamed for all the paedophiles out there and if anything, it being a smaller community makes it that little bit more safer. I mean, who's gonna google "iSketch" and go "Oooh, they have a cyber room, THAT'S where I'm gonna hang out from now on" ?? It just doesn't happen.

If you try banning cyber rooms anywhere, they're just try and be a bit more discrete instead and it's not worth it.

As for kids adding strangers to MSN and forming strange relationships online... well it happens. And regardless of how many stories kids read about men grooming kids over the net, they're still not gonna give a damn because they'll think "it won't happen to me cos I'm smarter than that" yuh, that's why you're in a cyber room. People won't learn so there's no point in moaning about it. Bad situations can only be avoided if kids are smart enough to not get themselves in stupid situations to begn with, or if sadly, they've been a victim online and have finally learnt a lesson or two.

Mato
24-08-2009, 07:27 PM
As I already said, it was from conversations with admins ON iSketch, not sure if that view has changed or not since then though, it has been a few years since then.

Not sure where you got the "a site for all ages" description from because it's not one I've ever seen.

Think you misunderstood sorry, I was saying you had a fair point and was also questioning where the OP had got the quote "a site for all ages" from.

Ches
24-08-2009, 09:51 PM
Wikipedia, probably. Where a lot of other sites seem to reference this 'site for all ages' idea and post on their sites also.

Nuka
25-08-2009, 02:48 AM
A video Store could be said to be a 'store for all ages too' - yet it too has it's R-rated section - and it is up to the parents to make sure the children don't go into that section.

My concern would be if those rooms which I avoid are shut down - the overflow would enter public rooms and make it harder than it already is for our regs, new players and Admin. It's hard enough to keep up with the rude players now.

So while I would never advocate personally the uc sex rooms ... it's keeping many of the type of players we don't want in public rooms out of circulation.

Medea.
25-08-2009, 02:14 PM
As for teens and kids underage going into cyber rooms, I don't think it could be helped. Even if iSketch didn't exist where would these underage kids be? They'd probably google "chat rooms" and pick from a range of selections.

True. But it makes me think then that all first time visitors to iSk must be looking to play a game and not for cyber, these rooms are just a bonus for those who are interested in it, teens and kids included. They mightn't be looking for it at all, yet stumble upon it anyway and let their curiousity get the better of them. I just don't think the game and cyber belong side by side, even if the cyber rooms are allllll the way down the bottom of the list, they're still in plain sight for anyone looking to play a game room outside easy. Although, as has been said before, an outright ban of cyber rooms could have a negative effect on the regular game rooms as people look for their 'fun' there instead. It would also create a whole lot more work for the already hardworking admins to police it, so idk what the solution is but I'd personally prefer to see them gone.

mortcat
26-08-2009, 02:23 AM
I'm just amused that while I was reading this thread, I noticed the ad at the top of this thread was a link to "Free Adult Chat Rooms: Browse profiles and chat with sexy local singles. Join Now Free!"

JASR
26-08-2009, 10:04 AM
I'm just amused, that I've just had a chat with a deadcat.
Distance of about 4000miles is stretching the use of the word 'local' though...