Someone got the word, "blow," and drew a picture of a woman giving head. I warned the person drawing because it was an inappropriate picture. Then the admin went on a very long tirade about how if I had waited longer that I would have seen it was not a dirty picture. However, the artist wasn't booted after my vote so he had time to clarify the drawing and he made no changes. The admin wouldn't drop the subject and when I defended my actions, and was even supported by another player [player name removed], the admin proceeded to revoke my voting privileges. Now, even if I had been wrong and that picture wasn't gratuitous (which it was), I don't think one vote against a picture that several people interpreted as inappropriate is worthy of having your voting privileges revoked over. My response to the admin after that was, "now you're just being spiteful." The next thing I know, I'm booted from the room.

Is this really how admins are meant to use their authority over people? Because all that, to me, seemed like an angry guy abusing his power to make a point.

I just read forum rules, you cant name/shame admins. So best remove it, so they don't get mad.

Admins decisions are normally accurate I would email isketch, I don't think this forum can help anyways. Good Luck

Broker

Naming and shaming the admin is against the rules of this forum. Also, this forum is an unofficial one for players, and has no direct bearing on what actions can or cannot be taken, so the best bet with your complaint is to send it to iSketch feedback, where I'm sure both sides of the story can be looked at.

info@isketch/net is the addy for feedback

Hey LonelyIsland, and welcome to the forum :)

First of all, obviously we don't know the whole story, so I'm making my opinion based on what I see here.

Most people I know, if they had the word 'blow' to draw, they would draw the wind blowing against some trees, someone blowing the candles out on a birthday cake or something similar to those. Fair enough, the person could have been drawing someone blowing a flute or clarinet, but usually you can tell pretty quickly if the drawing is going to turn lewd.

I don't wish to sound patronising, you do sound as if you have been playing iSketch for a while, but you really should make sure your vote is 100% legal before casting it. If you're not sure, sometimes it's best to PM an admin to ask them to take a look before voting. Of course you'd have to know an admin by name and still then they could be busy elsewhere. If it was deemed to be your first bad vote, I've never heard about anyone (on here anyway) that has had their voting privilege taken away after just one wrongful vote.

As the others above me have said though, Feedback is the only official way of getting your point across to the site owner, and I wish you good luck in finding your answer :)

If it was deemed to be your first bad vote, I've never heard about anyone (on here anyway) that has had their voting privilege taken away after just one wrongful vote.



/me puts up hand

I've never heard about anyone (on here anyway) that has had their voting privilege taken away after just one wrongful vote.

I have too.

Similar situation as LonelyIsland... drawing was headed in a bad direction, i voted it, admin upset for me voting early, drawing still turned out bad as suspected, voting rights revoked etc etc

Sorry it happened LonelyIsland, the best thing to do I guess is just email isketch about the certain admin and keep playing, keep voting, and you'll find that most admins in the game dont act so immature.

I've never heard about anyone (on here anyway) that has had their voting privilege taken away after just one wrongful vote.
* elfy puts up hand
I have too.

Really, it happened to both of you? It's understandable that you would vote early if the draw looks dirty, but perhaps the word could have been something like "blow" in LonelyIsland's case or like "pile" for someone drawing a person pooping etc. Based on the knowledge of the word this renders the drawing related, as long as it's not overly explicit of course, but we would never know this, as we have no idea what the word is while it's being drawn. The admins do know what the word is, so they'd have a different perception to us.

The reason I mention the "pile" example is that I was in a room recently when someone drew a big pile of poop. They thought it would be unrelated when the artist started drawing a big bum pooping, so they voted to skip. An admin joined the room and I assume the voter was warned about it. The player argued their point in public, but they weren't rude about the discussion, (they even apologised for the slightly ill-judged vote) and the admin (who, of course, will remain nameless) stood by their decision to warn. Once we could see the word at the end of the drawing period, I could understand both sides of the story, the drawing was related to the word, so the admin had the right to warn the voter, but at the same time, the voter had no clue as to what the word was, they just didn't like what they saw.

Luckily that voter just received a warning (well I'm assuming their vote wasn't taken), but the point to this anecdote of mine is that players and admins have a different perception on whether a drawing is related or not. Not only because it could be a word that has a vague slang meaning to it, like the word "blow", but because admins know the word and players don't know the word, their perceptions of a drawing like that will be very different.

Sorry to bore you with the story, but I felt I should mention it, as it is a case I witnessed :)

In my case I was booted/votes removed after voting a theme draw I deem to be incredibly racist and offensive. The theme i speak of is well-known to admins and considered borderline and not bannable or warnable. However as I have screenshots of the same player being incredibly racist and many admin including the one who booted me have seen them, coupled with the fact if a player finds a username or a draw offensive, they have every right to vote it (even if admin cannot act on it) I don't think the actions of the admin in this case were particularly fair:/ Also the message that accompanied the boot was kinda unnecessary. Still, such is life eh.

Interestingly, and timely enough, I have just witnessed something very similar. A player was drawing a pile of smelly poop. Someone voted to skip the drawing and an admin arrived. The admin explained that the drawing was relevant, and the voter argued, saying the drawing was offensive. The drawing was still in progress. The admin politely advised to not vote until after the round was over and the word known, but the voter argued and said they had the right to vote on offensive drawings. The admin returned again and made it clear that a) the drawing was related and b) the voter needed to be a little more patient. The voter then complained because they had received some sort of caution. As it turns out, the word was pile - and yes, the drawing was a pile of poop. It was not a rude drawing, there was no backside/butt drawn...just a pile of poop with wavy lines above it and a couple of flies.
In this instance, I agree with the admin. Voters need to wait, sometimes, to make sure that the word is not relevant before voting. This drawing wasn't rude or offensive - it was just a pile of smelly poop.

I can see how 'something' in someone's mouth might APPEAR to be becoming a rude drawing, but of course, they don't always. Voting too early can cause problems - I have seen it before and I just saw it today. It pays to wait.

It was not a rude drawing, there was no backside/butt drawn...just a pile of poop with wavy lines above it and a couple of flies.
In this instance, I agree with the admin.

Absolutely agree 100% in that case, as the word was drawn without being too graphic :)

With regards to the event that I witnessed, I saw no place for the actual defecation to be shown, the artist could have drawn a more "child-friendly" image like a pile of pancakes or pile of cards etc. I mean, who wants to see someone bending over and pooping. I wouldn't :s

In my opinion perhaps a polite word to the player would be better than an outright warn, seeing as that player didn't know the word. All of us here know about and also mention quite often that admins are human and make some mistakes sometimes, but good players do also make genuine mistakes, that I think deserve a little leniency. As for outright abusers, they deserve everything they get.

On the whole, I love what the admins do to keep iSketch safe and I know the admin's word is final, so did the voter at the time, but I just felt for the guy :)

I think what happens often too though is if a player has either

a. A rude or provocative id or

b. Has violated in past draws or

c. Has been especially rude in the room

Poor players go on the defensive automatically and expect a bad draw based on the persona they see in the room.

9 times out of 10 - a bad draw results.

However ... it is prudent for a player - a seasoned one especially - to wait until the draw is well commenced to see if it's 'lewd' or unrelated. Players will usually start to guess the word if its related.

As Soulangel as pointed out - if its relevant then it's not a rude draw - there are many words that for instance a pile of faeces would be relevant, including: Pile - stink - flies etc etc.

There are two sides to this as always:

THe artist : Usually a good artist doesn't go in this direction as they are often trolling but sometimes - just sometimes these draws are related and fine.

The guessers: These poor players do NOT know what the word is - so if it starts to look rude I can understand the desire to vote as there are so many on the site out to ruin the games.

My advice as a player: Become a good patient voter who tries to see all aspects before voting.

If it turns out the draw was off topic and rude - then either call in an admin if you know one or vote.

However ... it is prudent for a player - a seasoned one especially - to wait until the draw is well commenced to see if it's 'lewd' or unrelated. Players will usually start to guess the word if its related.

Absolutely agree that it's best to wait, hence why I didn't vote in the case I witnessed. Although I tend to find the newer players will begin to guess even if the drawing is related or not. Again, we don't know if the word is related or not, so that wouldn't prevent some people guessing in the first place :)

The thing that I find a bit weird is that in both LonelyIsland's and SoulAngel's stories (not sure about Jmac and elfy), is that the admin removed the voters' privileges just after the admin returned to the room and/or the voter defended their actions. If no other offences happened in between, surely discussing the admin's decision shouldn't ultimately result in the admin returning to remove their privilege, should it?

I could be completely wrong, and if I am, feel free to slap me :biggrin: It just seemed a bit strange that these two incidences are very similar in nature :)

Oh I don't think the voter in the case I saw had their voting privileges removed...they stayed in the room and played on, so they couldn't have. I think they were just cautioned about it though, cos the player said something about being whispered at by admin.