Hi all.
Im currently a training medium, they call us fledglings,as we are still new to the circle.
I wanted to know what people here thought about the afterlife and if you belive in it or have had messages from spirit or seen spirit.
I myself get messages by pictures in my minds eye and i also feel spirit touch me sometimes when im down or stressed.
Wen i say touched i mean touched eg slight tap on head or shoulder or my arm, or a brushing effect in my hair.
It may all sound mad to some of you, this is why i started this thread.
Lets hear your views.
Also if anyone wants a reading from me via thought id be glad to help as it helps me train.

I really don't believe in it. :) I kinda believe in an afterlife, but even that I'm not sure about, is a bit meh. -shrugs- Lol. I don't believe that spirits can come back and get in touch with people Well My rational side does. Sometimes when I watch a horror my mind runs away with me. But I don't really believe that spirits can get in touch with people, pass on messages etc etc. :) Each to their own.

I used to believe, but now. I don't. :)

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I kinda agree with Sorsie. I'm quite skeptical when it comes to the spiritual world.
But again to repeat what Sorsie has said, if you believe or not is completely up to you :)

You might find that wild cherry has a similar belief as you Budden :)

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I like to keep an open mind.

What is the 'afterlife' in the context of mediumship? I would consider the afterlife to be heaven, hell, etc. Have these spirits 'met their maker', as it were, or are they in some transitional space? I've heard of spirits communicating many years after their bucket has been preverbially kicked - so surely one of them must be able to settle the question as to whether there is a god, and if so, which one we should all be keeping sweet to gain entry to heaven, or to ensure we don't come back as a slug.

Also, is it possible to train in such things? I'd always figured it would be some sort of 'gift'.

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You also might find this thread interesting.

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Every human being on the planet has a soul ches which makes us all capable of being a meduim, our soul is the source that conveys messages after we die thus making us all meduims potentually.
I myself have had proof of an afterlife, i agree with other posts here that its an individual thing no one should shove it down someones throat it should be seeked with interest not force.

I don't know if I believe in an afterlife or in reincarnation, personally, although my religion does expect me to believe in them.

I'm curious about your mediumship experience, however.

What kind of pictures do you see?
Why do they communicate with you when you're stressed? Why would a "brushing effect" be a spirit and not just a breeze?
When you do a reading, what do you tell people? Do you tell people things they don't know? Are you a prophet/ess?

Like I said, curious :)

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Aye, tru dat. But if I wanted to know who actually is controlling the chess-pieces on Mount Olympus, could a spirit tell me that?

I have seen on the telly where mediums have been called in to help with police cases, and have subsequently been able to identify killers and what-not. I reckon that's pretty interesting.

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I don't believe in the spirit-world things... Heaven, Olympus, Valhalla, Elysium, Xibalba, Styx... I leave them for fantasy-writers and mythological movies.

And the soul.. I believe every living being has a soul, which is the memory after life.

I grew up among teachings of heaven and hell, you do good things and you go to heaven, you do bad things and you go to hell. But why would anyone care to be good, if you have to die to get your reward. One of my earliest sigs on the forum was "Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die."

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My beliefs are not like that, i belive or rather ive been taught that heavan and hell are the fantasy and not the spirit world.
Yes i belive in god or i wouldent be in the movement im in we are all good god abiding people, but we belive that the spirit plane IE heavan is home thats where we first came from.
We then progress in to human form and are born to this world tohave a life and to learn things and be tested ect.
Thats not tosay that if we are bad people or negative energies that we suffer after death quiet the opposite really, we die and our spirit goes home to the spirit world which is only all around us here on earth our loved ones who have passed are never far away.
When we return to spirit weather we have been good or bad we are judged as equals, hell is what we make things ourselves.
If we was nasty here we will be nasty therafter and spirit heal us and return us to our former selves before we was born.
Yes many of us on earth live a good chriatian / muslim / jewish / catholic/ prodistant life and if you was like that a holy person before death then you will not need to be healed in your afterlife cause you have lived that in your earthly one.
Its a lot to exsplain here but ive tried.

If you can, can you please reply to my post as well, please.

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hmmmmmm.
Someone above mentioned being a "good, god-abiding person" and I'm just hoping that they did not mean it in that the 2 things necessarily go hand in hand....because that is so not the case....at all. I am a good person (well I think so anyway :P) yet I have no religious affiliations whatsoever..I have my own set of morals, which I believe strongly in, but they have nothing to do with faith, gods or whatnot. I love fantasy, but at the end of the day, that is what it is...if there's no proof, it ain't for me.
I certainly do not believe we go elsewhere when we die, but the memory of our existence here on earth is what remains after our deaths, so if you wish to be remembered fondly it's probably best to act accordingly now, before it's too late :)
Personally speaking, I'm with Derren Brown on the subject of spiritualism

http://alchessmist.blogspot.com/2008...viewed-by.html

I agree with everything elfy and Derren Brown said! (And Richard Dawkins) I don't believe in any form of afterlife or spirits and especially not talking to them...
Derren Brown is so nice toooo :3

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Storm sorry i missed this post earlier of course ill respond.
Firstly hun im only a training meduim/ spiritul healer im not a prophetess at all.
I have been in touch with my spirit guilde though.
My feelings are simply given to me in my mind, ive seen spirit only once and that was very recently, i saw a white light above my bed which transformed in to a loved one who has passed.
The taps i get on my neck and back ect are reminders that they are with me constantly, as the brushing effect on my head its deffo not a breeze it feels more like a stroke on the head by unseen hands.
I dont exspect instant belief here from you lot im just shareing this with you.
I will be going on what we call platform next yr to do readings to an audience by then ill be more in tune.
The best way to describe meduimship simply is this, i ask spirit in my mind or out loud to come through me to contact a loved one ect i ask questions ,,,, now you would exspect me to say and yes i hear them answer me we ll i dont i get a picture in my minds eye or a feeling and sometimes i get a thought in my head like when we have an idea ect that is basicly meduimship hope this helps you.

PS here is one reading i heard this week from another meduim, he looked at a women in the group who had never been to us before, he asked her who is georgie boy???? she had no clue what he was on about.
He went back to his spirit or more info, and then said to her your son is called georgie boy in his spirit life, she looked taken aback and said yes my son is dead he was miscarried, she also said she never knew it was a boy either.
Micheal the meduim also went on to tell her the date he would have been born and that he was named georgie by her dad who had passed to spirit 3 yrs previously.
And he told her dads name, that to me is proof of there being an afterlife and we do live on, that is one of many messages ive seen happen.
God bless.

Thanks for the reply.

Who or what is a spirit guide?

When you do a reading to an audience or to someone... how can you be sure the necessary spirits are there? What if they're somewhere else answering someone else's call?

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We all have our own spirit guide hun, this can range from anyone from an angel a saint an indian or a member of family that has passed, another word for them is gaurdian angel, they are there to help protect us daily and put us on the right road ect.
We often miss the signs of having a guide as we are not open to hear them in this life were all to quickly rushing about blindly getting on with life.
Try sitting quietly sometime light candles clear your mind/ and be open minded also.
Dont sit with your arms crossed over your chest it blocks your own spirit from contacting others, as our spirit comes from the chest area.
Then just simply ask your guide to send a sign that they are there ask for help if you need it or just see them as a dear friend you turn to when in need, you may be suprised in how your mind alters to feel hapier more content and maybe if your mind is clear you will see evidence.
I dont mean anything spooky here either just a sign from them something subtle, awhite feather or a thought in your head give it a go.

What if a bad spirit contacts you.

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I'm an agnostic, but it's always interesting for me to see what other people believe in :)

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A lot of what I had to say on this has clearly been robbed by Derren Brown :P (great video, elfy), so I'll just make a few points.

I don't believe in spirits, souls, any afterlife, gods etc at all. If I did though, the idea of going to Heaven wouldn't appeal to me. Over crowded nursing home? No thanks.

Similar to elfy said, it would be nice if these things were real, but that's no reason for me to live my life as if they do. I mean, I think it would be fun if wizards and stuff really existed but I'm not going to change my name to Merlin and buy a staff.

Personally, I'm more interested in things which are real. I'd rather learn and talk about things which do exist than things which may or may not exist. I have really no need to start making up things to find out about, when I could be learning about real life things...

To me, "open minded" has to be one of the worst terms ever created because it seems to imply that you're a better person if you believe things like this. Believing in souls and whatnot tends to make you appear more interesting to people, and lots of people have some urge to seem spiritual.

I have to say though, it seems to me that a lot of "mediums" are fakes, and know they are. Especially the ones you see on TV. I think it's disgusting to play with someone by telling them that their dead relative is giving them messages.

There's a few ideas/questions I'd still like to put to you though, Budden:

I'm struggling to see the point of there being a whole "earthly world" made to test people, if the bad people are just going to be made good again, when they were apparently already good to begin with?

Also, if this is meant to be a test, isn't having a "spirit guide" sort of cheating?

So spirits can contact people from different worlds, but are blocked by arms?

If it's images you get rather than clear messages, why do you feel confident that you can interpret these images in the way they're meant to be interpreted? Most images could have a number of meanings.

Also, ask anyone to close their eyes and do nothing and some image will come to their mind. Thinking of nothing is pretty difficult.

I think analysing any images you get in your head will tell you more about yourself than someone else.

Hmm, is this turning into a religion/faith/beliefs thread?

If so, then my only opinion on the whole matter is this:

I am quite happy to let people believe what they wish to believe, however improbable or strange it sounds. My religion has a boy with an elephant head. I don't believe in him personally, but I am quite happy to let others believe.

If it gives someone comfort to believe that there is something spiritual out there, be it spirits who want to communicate with living people, God, Satan or something else, then as long as it just makes them be a better person in society, I'm quite happy to let them pursue their faith or whatever they wish to call it.

In fact, I am quite happy to ask about it and learn about people's views on it, because it isn't hurting me. I think it makes for interesting conversation to wonder about things that may or may not exist.

That made me lol. I agree though.

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Well...

I have a picture of a God in my room. I pray occasionally. I address God sometimes when things are messed up. I remember to thank God when things go well. I question God when I'm being a royal pain the ass to my parents what they've done to deserve this. I don't step on books, paper, or magazines because I've been told education is sacred - if I do - I let God know I mean no disrespect.

But

Do I believe that God lives in the skies? No.
Do I believe in a God that wanders around with the head of an elephant and the body of a man? No.
Do I believe that when I die I will meet God? No.

Do I believe in ghosts? Well, I wouldn't walk through a cemetery and swear at all the graves. Just in case.

I think religion is a nice concept. I think it instils some discipline, routine, and respect into life. I don't think it's bad for man to feel that he is not all-powerful. I think that if religion is what it takes to be a better person, then so be it. I could be a better person (I guess we all could), but right now, the guidance religion offers is not the guidance I need.

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Now personally I dont believe in this stuff Budden, but i respect all mans right to believe what they desire.

I did just have one question though,
do you believe in the Bible? if not, do you have any scripture?

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Yes i belive in god and the bible jmac, i dont pretend to me this big holy religious woman, i just belive in god and the bible ect, i dont know about all its scriptures or texts.
But i do also belive in the afterlife more than belive ive had proof it is there.
I appreciate many people do not belive in the spirit side or maybe they just dont understand it, all i know is i go to the grouponce a week i sit amoung childern and adults and we have a good time we pray we sing and we all get along great.
So that in itself is thrilling without the proof we get in meduimship.

Course you can ask lol no probs.
We as a group pray to our lord jesus/ god ect we dont call ourselves catholic, or any other religion we are just us.
In the group we have jewish asian english all kinds of good people, we dont really discuss religion.
We just start our night with the lords prayer, then the meduim of the night gives his opening talk.
We then sing to recorded music eg angels by robbie williams or youll never walk alone you know nice easy peacefull meaningfull songs.
Then the meduim will do the clarvoyance for us.
We end the night saying our little verse which is,,,,,,,,

LORD KEEP US SAFE THIS NIGHT SECURE FROM ALL OUR FEARS, MAY ANGELS GUARD US WHILE WE SLEEP TILL MORNING LIGHT APPEARS.

Then you can either stay for healing or go home, like i said in my earlier post im not saying im a really religious person but i do belive in god and the afterlife and try to live my life the best way i can to ensure i treat all human and animal life with great respect.